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Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
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Post Number: 773
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thought the short piece below might be of interest. Published in 1894, the same year as the Macnaghten memo.
Chris

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Marion Daily Star
26 December 1894

Jack the Ripper Dead?

In connection with young Saunderson's insane crime and the Kensington stabbings the authorities have been extremely alarmed lest another Jack the Ripper scare should seize upon the popular mind. This has led them recently to make the important announcement that they have reason to believe that the author of the Jack the Ripper crimes has been several years in his grave.
London Correspondent
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Inspector
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Post Number: 168
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what are the kensington stabbings?
jennifer
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Chris Scott
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Post Number: 774
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jennifer
I presumed that this should read Kennington and refers to Cutbush
Chris
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Christopher T George
Inspector
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi, Chris:

The Marion Daily Star had earlier in the month covered the Saunderson case, in a press report that possibly you yourself helped add to the press section:

Marion Daily Star
Ohio, USA
4 December 1894

IS HE "JACK THE RIPPER"?
A Young Aristocrat Accused of Murdering a Scarlet Woman

London, Dec. 5.
On Nov. 26 it was announced that a mysterious murder had been committed in Kensington, a western suburb of this metropolis. The body of a comely woman of the unfortunate class, about 30, was found in a frequented thoroughfare, Holland Vila's (sic) road, Kensington, with ther throat cut. Some of the London newspapers claimed that this murder seemed to be a crime of the class committed by "Jack the Ripper". It is announced that a young man named Reginald Saunderson, son of Mr. Llewellyn Saunderson, a prominent gentleman of the county of Dublin, has been arrested and charged with the crime.

It has transpired that one of the places visited by Saunderson was Monckstown. While there he wrote an unsigned letter in which he admitted his guilt. This letter fell into the hands of the Scotland Yard authorities and was one of the clews that led to his arrest.
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Christopher T George
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 12:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Chris et al.--

To follow up on this, the Marion Daily Star article of 26 December 1894 that you kindly posted, Chris, definitely says Kensington and not Kennington. While you may be right that "Kennington" was meant, the crimes of Thomas Cutbush took place in 1891 not 1894--only the Macnaghten memorandum referring to the crimes was written in that year. Cutbush was found to be criminally insane in Aptil 1891 and sentenced to be detained at the Queen's pleasure in Broadmoor, and he died there in 1903. I should think therefore that this short newspaper article refers to fresh 1894 knife attacks in Kensington in the west of London and is, as it states, making a link between those crimes and the murder by throat cutting of the 30-year-old prostitute for which Reginald Saunderson, son of Mr. Llewellyn Saunderson, was arrested and charged. Incidentally, it looks as if we need to find the outcome of that case.

All the best

Chris
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Chris Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Chris
Thanks for that info and I think you are right in that it is more likely the article would be referring to more recent cases than Cutbush
I'll see what more I can find about Saunderson
All the best
Chris
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Chris Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Chris
Found these two cuttings which might help in the outcome of the Saunderson case:

1) Ogden Standard 30 january 1895
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2) Fort Wayne News 29 January 1895
saunfort

Hope this helps
Chris
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Christopher T George
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Hi, Chris

Thanks for those details which fill us in on the disposition of the Saunderson case.

As an aside, I find interesting the several serious typos in the first news story, giving the Old Bailey as "Old Baily" and the name of the victim as "Augustus Dawet" not "Augusta Dawes" and the place of the attack as "Hooland Park Road" rather than "Holland Park Road"!

It looks like now we are looking for something further on those Kensington knife attacks if we can scare something up about them. Thanks as usual for all your help, Chris.

By the way, it does seem as if Saunderson was responsible for at least one Jack the Ripper letter, since he apparently wrote a letter describing the killing of Dawes and signed it "Jack the Ripper." As reported in the Ogden Standard of 8 December 1894: "A letter which the police received from Dublin, giving the details of how the girl was murdered, was read. It was signed 'Jack the Ripper.' It is said to be in the prisoner's handwriting." The full text of the story is at ARISTOCRATIC CRIMINAL ARRAIGNED.

All the best

Chris

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Chris Phillips
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Post Number: 141
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Posted on Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 5:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I looked into this a bit after John Ruffels had provided a news item similar to the one that heads this thread. Some details can be found in the thread Reginald Saunderson's crime.

Chris Phillips

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Chris Scott
Chief Inspector
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 9:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all
I have now found some more info on this. The cutting at the head of this thread mentions the "Kensington stabbings" and there was some debate about whether this was the Kennington crimes of Cutbush or as Chris George wrote above " I should think therefore that this short newspaper article refers to fresh 1894 knife attacks in Kensington in the west of London."
I knew of no such attacks at that time but the answer was on the same page of the same paper!!!
And an extraordinary story it is! the article below is from the same edition of the Marion Daily Star:

Marion Daily Star
26 December 1894

LONDON'S REIGN OF TERROR
A Mysterious Veiled Woman in Black and Her Thirst for Blood

Two ladies of the writer's family were making calls just after dusk yesterday in Kensington. They had some difficulty in finding the new address of a friend, and not seeing a policeman stopped to inquire the way at Queen's gate Terrace of a group of four women who happened to be approaching. Before they had time to speak two words of their question the four women turned and fled, with every evidence of sudden terror. The ladies walked on a few steps, met two more women and attempted to make the same inquiry. The second couple seemed seized with even greater alarm than the first group. They gathered up their skirts, ran across the street and away without waiting to hear the question.
This extraordinary power to put British maids and matrons to flight by a word so amused the two American women that they tested it once or twice more, with the same result, except that one woman retained sufficient self possession to call back "Don't know" over her shoulder as she ran away.
The incident furnishes striking proof of the literal reign of terror now prevailing in one of the most fashionable quarters of London by reason of the series of strange crimes about which the cable has already told you something. A mysterious veiled woman in black, whose mania is to stab others of her sex, has appeared no less than five times within a week in a district less than half a mile square, and although scores of detectives are lying in wait for her she is still at large. In each case she has approached her victim with an inquiry about a certain street. Her first victim lost an eye, and the second was stabbed in the neck, narrowly escaping a fatal wound. The fear of her was now widespread, so that the others she accosted fled before she could strike them. There is some suspicion that she is a small man in disguise, as all describe her as having a gruff voice, but the police believe it is a woman, and that she is undoubtedly insane.
London Letter


Hope this is of interest
Chris

(Message edited by Chris on January 04, 2004)
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AP Wolf
Chief Inspector
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Post Number: 686
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 5:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thomas in drag! What fun!
Sadly young Thomas was banged up by then for good and forever, perhaps it was young Colocott?
He was only bound over.
Fascinating information Chris.

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