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Detective Sergeant
Username: Diana

Post Number: 95
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 8:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have decided to start with Barnett. I have read Paley's book but it was some time back, so my scores could be revised if anybody has more info.

1physically strong (0-10 points) Hefted things in the fish market, so 10.
2. schizoid (disorganized, motive was personal) or sociopath (organized, motive was lust)or mixed or religious-obsessive or autistic. (.175-9.825 points) Dont know -- echolalia suggests possible autism, Ill give him 6.5 on this one.
3. Neurologically adept with spatial relationships (.328-9.672points) No evidence either way -- 5
4. nocturnal at least on weekends and holidays (.481-9.519 points) no evidence -- 5
5. con man or popped out of gates and grabbed them, or chose the extremely desperate (.634-9.366 points) no evidence -- 5
6. present in Whitechapel on relevant dates (.787-9.213 points) As far as we know, yes. I'll give him 8.
7. some experience in killing (slaughterhouse? military?) (.940-9.060 points) not known -- 5
8. risk taker (1.093-8.907 points) relationship with MJK was certainly risky. I'll give him 8.
9.knowledge of local geography (1.246-8.754 points) Lived in Whitechapel. 8.754
10. control freak (1.399-8.601 points) Couldn't stand Mary's new roommates. Left when she went out on the street again. 7.5
11. age in 20s or 30s. (1.552-8.448 points) 8.448
12. anatomical knowledge (1.705-8.295 points) 5
13. dysfunctional family -- alcoholism? abuse?absent father? (1.858-8.142 points) 8.142
14. History of lesser crimes. (2.011-7.989 points) 5
15. was employed (2.164-7.836 points) 2.164
16. Robbed victims -- no victim found with money (2.317 -7.683 points) 5
17. precrime stressor (2.470-7.530 points) 7.530
18. sick, incarcerated, dead or moved away subsequent to the murders (2.623-7.377 points) 5
19. lower socioeconomic group (2.776-7.224 points) 7.224
20. ethnic -- white, Anglo-Saxon or Irish (2.929-7.071 points) 7.071
21. physical abnormality? (3.082-6.918 points) 6.918 (echolalia)
22. hated women (3.235-6.765 points) 5
23. hated reproductive function (3.388-6.612 points) 5
24. mutilated animals (3.541-6.459 points) 5
25. self injury (3.694-6.306 points) 5
26. Personally knew Eddowes and/or Kelly? (facial mutilations) (3.847-6.153 points) 6.153
27. Paid them with liquor to get them drunk? (4-6 points) 5

The highest possible score would be 215.725 (Avg. 7.9) The lowest would be 54.298 (Avg.2.011) giving a range of 161.427. Anything in the neighborhood of 135 would reflect maximum uncertainty. Moving upward from 135 would give a greater indication of guilt and downward, innocence.

Barnett comes out with 167.404 or an average of 6.2 out of a possible 7.9. These numbers will be pretty meaningless until we rate other suspects and compare scores.

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Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The age range for Victorian Jack should not, I believe, be the same as the accepted modern median age for an American SK. Precocity generally increases over the decades. 40-year-olds should be scored higher.

On the subject of Barnett, I think of three words: Butch from Altoona.
Charles Butch Soult and his brother Mike were convicted in 1979 of killing Butch's live-in girlfriend Betty Jane Shade.
(The only mention of the case I can find on the Net is a brief mention in the synopsis for the book Mindhunter on the JohnDouglasMindhunter website.)
This milestone case established the merit of the disorganized/organized profile, and therefore may have a bearing on why profilers peg Jack as disorganized. Betty Jane Shade's body was mutilated similar to Mary Kelly. Profilers couldn't help but link the two cases. But it seems to have had no influence in promoting Barnett's candidacy in their eyes. Not even for Mary Kelly's murder.

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