July 31st, 1889

William Henry Clemmy, surveyor, Bootle, examined by Mr. Swift, produce plans of Battlecrease, the residence of the deceased.

Witness: Mr. Michael Maybrick

Michael Maybrick: examined by Mr. McConnell. I am a music composer, residing at Wellington Chambers, Regent's Park, London. James Maybrick of Battlecrease was my brother. He was fifty years of age. The prisoner and he were married in July, 1881. There are two children of the marriage, a boy, seven years, and a girl, three years of age. My deceased brother was in the habit of visiting me occasionally in London. On 13th April he came up to see me there, and remained with me until the Monday following. On Sunday, the 14th, Dr. Fuller came to my chambers, and my brother consulted him in my presence. Dr. Fuller prescribed for him. My brother's object in coming to London was primarily to see about his wife's debts, and he took advantage of his visit to see my doctor. I had a conversation with my brother in reference to the objects of his visit. He came up the week after and stayed at a hotel, but I was out of town and did not see him.

On Wednesday, 8th May, I received three telegrams, one from Mrs. Briggs; and in consequence of the contents of these messages I left London the same day for Liverpool. On arriving at Edgehill I was met by my brother Edwin, and with him I drove to Battlecrease House. In the cab we had a conversation as to my brother James's health, and on arrival at the house Edwin showed me a letter, dated 8th May, in the prisoner's handwriting, addressed to Mr. Brierley. I met Mrs. Maybrick at my brother's bedroom door. I asked where my brother was, and then I entered the room, Mrs. Maybrick following me. Nurse Gore was in charge. I was very much shocked to see the state he was in, he being only semi-conscious. Shortly afterwards I saw Mrs. Maybrick in the morning-room, and I said to her that I was not satisfied with my brother's treatment. She asked me what I meant, and I said that she ought to have called in professional nurses, and also another doctor earlier. At that time I had heard that Dr. Humphreys was in attendance, and that a nurse had been procured that day. I also learned that Dr. Carter had been called in as a consulting physician. Mrs. Maybrick said that no one had a better right to nurse the husband than his wife, and I agreed with her, but repeated that I was dissatisfied with the case, and that I would go and see Dr. Humphreys, which I did. I had some conversation with Nurse Gore that night. I slept in the house that night, on the top floor. On Thursday my brother seemed rather better, and Dr. Humphreys seemed to be satisfied with the case. I saw Dr. Carter that same day, and told him what I had told Dr. Humphreys. On Friday morning, in consequence of a conversation that I had with Nurse Gore, I went into the sick-room and took away about half a bottle of brandy. I again saw Nurse Gore in the afternoon, and following on our conversation I took from the wash-stand in the bedroom part of a bottle of Valentine's meat juice, which I gave, precisely as I had found it, to Dr. Carter, about a quarter past four that same afternoon. The bottle of extract was a little more than half full. On going back to my brother's room that afternoon I saw Mrs. Maybrick changing, as I thought, the medicine from one bottle to another, and I said to her, "Florie, how dare you tamper with the medicine."

Justice Stephen: She was putting the label on the bottle.

Michael Maybrick: She explained that there was so much sediment in the smaller bottle that it was impossible to dissolve it, and she was putting it into the larger bottle so that the medicine might be more easily shaken. I now identify the bottle into which the medicine was being poured. I told her that I was much annoyed and dissatisfied, and that I would have the prescription immediately remade, which I did. My brother grew gradually worse from that time, and at six o'clock he was highly delirious. He was conscious when not delirious. About three or four o'clock Mrs. Maybrick, when in the garden, asked why Dr. Fuller was not brought, and I replied that I believed that Dr. Carter fully understood the case, and that it was rather late in the day to send for Dr. Fuller.

Mrs. Maybrick came to my room about three o'clock the next morning and said that matters were much worse. I found my brother, who was in charge of Nurse Gore, to be very ill indeed. About five o'clock he saw his children. Dr. Carter saw my brother about noon. About 8:40 that same evening my brother died. About half-past eleven in the evening Nurse Yapp brought me a chocolate box containing several small bottles and a small parcel labeled with a long red label, "Arsenic: Poison."

Justice Stephen: "Arsenic: Poison" is the label, and in another hand are the words, "For cats."

Michael Maybrick: In the presence of Mr. Steel, solicitor, who resided next door, and who came in, I sealed the box with my private seal, and placed it in the wine cellar. Subsequently I gave it to Inspector Baxendale. On Sunday morning, the 12th, I, along with my brother Edwin, made a search of the bedroom. We found some letters which I afterwards gave to Inspector Baxendale, but I looked at these letters before doing so.

Sir Charles Russell: You first saw your brother on Sunday, the 14th April?

Michael Maybrick: No; I first saw him at Kensington.

Sir Charles Russell: On the occasion of that visit?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: It is the fact, is it not, that he had telegraphed when he came to London and asked for an appointment to be made with Dr. Fuller?

Michael Maybrick: Yes; I believe that was so.

Sir Charles Russell: But, as you understand it, one of his principal objects in coming to London was to consult Dr. Fuller about his health?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: When you came down on Wednesday, 8th May, what time did you arrive at Battlecrease?

Michael Maybrick: At about half-past nine o'clock.

Sir Charles Russell: Where did you first see your brother Edwin?

Michael Maybrick: At Edge Hill.

Sir Charles Russell: Did he then show you the Brierley letter?

Michael Maybrick: No, he told me the purport of it.

Sir Charles Russell: And, I suppose, told you the circumstances under which he had obtained it from the nurse Yapp?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You were astonished to see that state your brother was in?

Michael Maybrick: I was.

Sir Charles Russell: You saw that he was very ill?

Michael Maybrick: Very ill indeed.

Sir Charles Russell: In a semi-conscious condition?

Michael Maybrick: A sort of semi-conscious condition.

Sir Charles Russell: I think Mrs. Briggs was there, was she not?

Michael Maybrick: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Was she not there at the time you arrived?

Michael Maybrick: No; certainly not.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you learn that she had been there earlier in the day?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I was told so.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you see her the next morning?

Michael Maybrick: I did.

Sir Charles Russell: She took a very serious view of the case, did she not?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: She intimated to you that she had taken a very serious view from the first?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And that she had been there early on the previous morning?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Except upon Thursday, he expressed himself as free from pain, did he not, but it seemed to you that from Wednesday he gradually sank, until he died on Saturday?

Michael Maybrick: Well, no; that is not my opinion at all.

Sir Charles Russell: What is your view?

Michael Maybrick: My view is that there was a decided improvement up to Friday morning.

Sir Charles Russell: And then began the collapse?

Michael Maybrick: And then he collapsed hour by hour.

Sir Charles Russell: In what way did it seem to you that he was better?

Michael Maybrick: He was better in spirits, and from his conversation he seemed to think himself better -- in fact, he remarked himself that he thought he was better.

Sir Charles Russell: Just tell me -- I want to get at all these matters -- had you from the first a strong suspicion in the case?

Michael Maybrick: I had.

Sir Charles Russell: And you expressed this suspicion very openly to Mrs. Maybrick, and to the nurses?

Michael Maybrick: Not to the nurses.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you not, sir? Are you aware that instructions were given to the nurses?

Michael Maybrick: Oh! you mean the hospital nurses?

Sir Charles Russell: I said the nurses.

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I was aware that they had instructions.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware that there were instructions given to them which would convey the idea that there was felt, by those interested in the case, considerable suspicion?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, that is so.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you, on your arrival, give any instructions to Nurse Gore?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you become aware on the Wednesday that Mrs. Maybrick herself had telegraphed for a nurse?

Michael Maybrick: No, I did not know then; I learned it subsequently, but I do not know how I learned it.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you not learn it from your brother?

Michael Maybrick: No, I do not think he knew it at the time. I could not say where or how I learned it; but I certainly did hear it afterwards.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you hear from your brother that Mrs. Maybrick had urged him to call in Dr. M'Cheyne?

Michael Maybrick: I did not understand it that way. My brother said he had seen Dr. M'Cheyne.

Sir Charles Russell: I ask you whether Mrs. Maybrick suggested to you that you should call in Dr. M'Cheyne.

Michael Maybrick: I cannot recollect that conversation.

Sir Charles Russell: The first matter, I think -- I wish to follow this out in order that there may be no misapprehension -- the first matter your attention was called to was by Nurse Gore, in reference to a bottle of brandy?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: On Friday, was it not?

Michael Maybrick: On Friday morning.

Sir Charles Russell: In consequence of what she said, you were led to have the bottle, which was apparently half-full of brandy, removed?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And you handed it over for examination afterwards?

Michael Maybrick: Not then; I locked it up first.

Sir Charles Russell: That was on the Friday?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: To whom did you hand it?

Michael Maybrick: I locked it up at once, but afterwards I gave it to Inspector Baxendale.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware that from that bottle your brother received nothing after it was taken care of?

Michael Maybrick: Nothing from that bottle.

Sir Charles Russell: You subsequently handed it over to Dr. Carter on the Friday?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And it was subsequently found to be harmless?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: The next thing was a small bottle of Valentine's meat extract, to which reference was made by Nurse Gore?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And in consequence of which you took charge of it?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: After Nurse Callery called your attention to it, I take it that nothing was administered to your brother from that bottle?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: I wish to ask you what time was it you observed, or thought you observed, Mrs. Maybrick changing the medicine form the smaller into the larger bottle?

Michael Maybrick: I think it was, as nearly as I could tell, about two o'clock; it might have been a little after or a litter before.

Sir Charles Russell: That was on the Friday?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: In consequence of what you saw her doing you spoke to her very sharply?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I did.

Sir Charles Russell: What did you do with the bottle?

Michael Maybrick: I took it away, and gave it to Dr. Humphreys.

Sir Charles Russell: Mrs. Maybrick, you think, was in the act of putting a label on?

Michael Maybrick: She was putting it on.

Sir Charles Russell: At that time Nurse Callery was in the room?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And you are aware the contents of this were also analyzed?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And you are aware there was no arsenic in it?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: So far as you are aware, there was no concealment about the matter?

Michael Maybrick: None whatever.

Sir Charles Russell: What was it Nurse Yapp brought to you about eleven o'clock?

Michael Maybrick: She brought me a chocolate box.

Sir Charles Russell: Look at it; take it in your hands and tell me what is in it.

Michael Maybrick: There were several things, bottles, piece of linen.

Sir Charles Russell: Are those things in now?

Michael Maybrick: Yes. I think they are very much the same.

Sir Charles Russell: Where did she find them?

Michael Maybrick: In the trunk which had been taken from the closet in which to put the childrens' clothes.

Sir Charles Russell: One side of this bottle had been ticketed poison, and the other was endorsed in a bold hand -- "Arsenic -- Poison for cats?"

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: There is this box of quinine pills?

Michael Maybrick: I do not remember. I did not examine them myself.

Sir Charles Russell: I really want to know what you did see, because it may be important. Is there a suggestion that there was any arsenic in either of these bottles which have been examined? Russell holds up some small phials.

Michael Maybrick: I really do not know.

Sir Charles Russell: I notice this bottle is labeled, "Solution of morphia, twenty to twenty-five drops a dose." Apparently the name of the chemist is scratched out. Do you know what is in this smaller bottle?

Michael Maybrick: No, I do not. I am not aware what their contents are.

Sir Charles Russell: Then there is this handkerchief. Russell hold up handkerchief. You are aware that this is a lady's one, with the name "Maybrick" in the corner of it?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: The evidence at the inquest was that there was a red stain on this handkerchief. Except that, is there anything in relation to the contents of the chocolate box that in any way suggests arsenic?

Michael Maybrick: Not that I am aware of. I did not follow the evidence as to the different bottles.

Sir Charles Russell: What else did Yapp give you?

Michael Maybrick: A brown paper parcel. Inside it was a white parcel.

Sir Charles Russell: Does that contain insect powder?

Michael Maybrick: I do not know.

Sir Charles Russell: Was the parcel open?

Michael Maybrick: It was open at one end, and the stuff was running out.

Sir Charles Russell: Was there anything poisonous in that that you are aware of?

Michael Maybrick: I do not know.

Justice Stephen: I think it is admitted there was no poison in that?

Mr. Addison: I believe that is so, my lord.

Sir Charles Russell: Was there anything else in that parcel?

Michael Maybrick: Nothing that I know of.

Sir Charles Russell: Did she give you anything else that night?

Michael Maybrick: Not that I remember.

Sir Charles Russell: I may, just in passing, call attention to this smaller parcel which was labeled "Arsenic," and which is endorsed, "Poison for cats" -- that is discolored, isn't it?

Michael Maybrick: Yes; I believe it is.

Sir Charles Russell: In other words, it is carbonized arsenic, or mixed with charcoal?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I believe so.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware that for cats it is mixed with carbon in this way?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Justice Stephen: There is no evidence to prove that it is arsenic.

Sir Charles Russell: (To Justice Stephen) I believe it is arsenic. (Continuing Cross-examination) Your brother was a cotton broker?

Michael Maybrick: He was a cotton merchant.

Sir Charles Russell: He had lived some years in America, had he not?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did he go there and stay off and on till he was married?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: He lived in America for some time?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, but he came backwards and forwards.

Sir Charles Russell: That took place practically down to the time he was married?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: I think that since his marriage he has also gone to America?

Michael Maybrick: Yes; he went there three or four times after his marriage.

Sir Charles Russell: I will just ask you one or two questions about your brother. Was he a man rather fond of his personal appearance?

Michael Maybrick: He was particular about it.

Sir Charles Russell: Was he a man given to dosing himself?

Michael Maybrick: Not that I am aware of. I never saw him. At times he took a little phosphorus, I know.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you ever heard about his dosing himself?

Michael Maybrick: I never heard, except in a letter from Mrs. Maybrick.

Sir Charles Russell: I should be glad to see that letter.

Michael Maybrick: Well, unfortunately, I destroyed it. I did not think it of any importance.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you tell me whether it was early in March when you received it?

Michael Maybrick: I should think it was early in March. I do not remember the day.

Sir Charles Russell: You say you destroyed the letter at the time?

Michael Maybrick: Certainly; three or four hours after receiving it.

Sir Charles Russell: Tell us what your recollection is.

Michael Maybrick: As far as I can recollect, she stated that she had found my brother was taking a white powder, and that she thought it might have something to do with the pains in his head. I know it was a statement to that effect, to which I attached very little importance at the time. She also stated in the letter that he had not the slightest suspicion she had discovered it, and she would not like him to know it. I was given to understand that I was not to mention it to him.

Sir Charles Russell: You were asked about this before the magistrates, were you not?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: What action did you take upon that?

Michael Maybrick: The only action I took was to communicate it to the deceased when he came to London. On Saturday night, when my brother arrived, we were speaking about different things, and I said, "What is it with reference to those white powders I am told about?" I said, "I am told you take a certain powder." He said, "Whoever told you that, it is a damned lie."

Sir Charles Russell: Did you pursue this subject further?

Michael Maybrick: I did not.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect whether Mrs. Maybrick said in her letter that her husband was again ill, and nervous and irritable?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I believe she did refer to his irritability.

Sir Charles Russell: Did she say she was certain he was still physicking himself?

Michael Maybrick: Well, I really could not be sure on that point, but the latter was to that purport.

Sir Charles Russell: Did she say she had seen him take a white powder on several occasions, and that when she referred to it he flew into a passion, and did not like it to be talked about?

Michael Maybrick: Yes; I believe she did say something to that effect.

Sir Charles Russell: Did she say she herself had searched for the powder, and could not find any trace of the powder he took?

Michael Maybrick: That I do not remember; I have no recollection of it.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect what was suggested? Do you recollect that she suggested it was perhaps strychnine, or some other drug? Do you recollect the word strychnine?

Michael Maybrick: I cannot say I do.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you undertake to say, from your recollection, that she did not, referring to a white powder, say it might be strychnine?

Michael Maybrick: I should not like to say one way or another; my recollection is too vague.

Sir Charles Russell: Your own family doctor is Dr. Fuller?

Michael Maybrick: He is.

Sir Charles Russell: That fact was known to your brother and his wife?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, it was. I mentioned it at Christmas time, when I asked him to come up to London to see Dr. Fuller.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you remember whether she mentioned Dr. Fuller's name in the letter?

Michael Maybrick: I really cannot say. It is very possible, but I tell you I have a very poor recollection. The idea in my mind is that she referred to his taking a powder. I believe she said she thought she ought to tell me about it. That was the whole of the letter as far as I remember it.

Sir Charles Russell: You understand, Mr. Maybrick, that I am accepting your recollection as far as it goes. Do you remember that one of the objects of your brother's visit to London was to obtain a settlement of some debts which his wife had incurred?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You were aware of a dispute having arisen in reference to this man Brierley?

Michael Maybrick: I did not hear the nature of the dispute. I had heard there had been a dispute.

Sir Charles Russell: As far as you are aware, your brother died entirely in ignorance of the guilty meeting in London?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I am convinced of it.

Sir Charles Russell: The only complaint having to do with her was in reference to the quarrel about the Grand National?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I believe so. I firmly believe he knew nothing except what took place on the racecourse.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware there were complaints on both sides?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You know the name of a woman has been introduced into this case?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware that, at the instance of Mrs. Briggs, Mrs. Maybrick went to consult a friend in reference to this woman?

Michael Maybrick: Yes, I am aware of it.

Sir Charles Russell: And a reconciliation was supposed to have been brought about between Mr. Maybrick and his wife?

Michael Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you examined your brother's papers?

Michael Maybrick: Not very much myself, but my brother has.

Sir Charles Russell: Well, I prefer to examine him in regard to them. Did you come across, or has your brother shown you, a bundle of prescriptions?

Michael Maybrick: I have not seen them.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you come across the cashbox from Mrs. Maybrick's wardrobe?

Michael Maybrick: I have seen it, but it is not here.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you aware it has been asked for by the representative of Mrs. Maybrick?

Michael Maybrick: No, I am not aware; I have not heard of it at all so far.

Mr. Addison: (Re-examining the witness.)

Michael Maybrick: The only way I can fix the date when my sister- in-law wrote to me is by a certain even which took place in London on 26th March, and I think it must have been a fortnight before then. When I mentioned the powder to my brother, and he told me it was a lie, I dropped the subject, as he seemed to be annoyed.

Witness: Dr. Arthur Richard Hopper

Dr. Hopper: I am a physician and surgeon in Rodney Street, Liverpool. I have attended Mr. and Mrs. Maybrick since 1881, shortly after their marriage. He was a very healthy man, but he complained from time to time of symptoms which in my mind were not very serious -- slight dyspepsia and nervousness, which I thought to be exaggerated. After June, 1888, he complained more than formerly. I usually prescribed nerve tonics. I never prescribed arsenic for him in any shape or form, but I remember having a conversation with him some years ago about it. My impression of the conversation is that he told me that he knew it as an anti-periodic. When he returned from America, I think he said he had been taking quinine, and as he said that quinine did not suit him, I suppose I suggested arsenic. Arsenic is an anti-periodic, and it is given in cases of disease in which there is a liability to periodic recurrence. It is for intermittent fevers, marsh fevers, etc.. The nerve tonics which I prescribed were very ordinary ones, nux vomica and phosphoric acid. With that exception my impression was that he was a fairly healthy man.

I remember the day after the Grand National, 30th March, Mrs. Maybrick called upon me. She complained that she was very unwell, that she had been up all night, had taken very little food, and was out of sorts, and she asked my advice. I saw that she had a black eye. She said that her husband had been very unkind to her, that they had had a serious quarrel the night before, and he had beaten her. The quarrel she explained was the outcome of a disagreement at the Grand National, but I do not think she told me at that time what that disagreement was about. She said that she had a very strong feeling against him, and could not bear him to come near her. She also said that it was her intention to go to a lawyer and ask for a separation to be arranged. About half-past three the next day I went to Battlecrease House. I first saw Mrs. Maybrick alone, and afterwards I saw her along with her husband. They stated their respective complaints against one another in my presence, as to her repugnance for him, and as to the quarrel the night before. Mr. Maybrick said that his wife had annoyed him very much at the Grand National, that she had gone off with a gentleman and walked up the course although he had distinctly told her not to do so. I do not think there was any other grievance. In the course of a conversation with Mrs. Maybrick she told me she was very much in debt, and that that was the great obstacle to reconciliation. I told her I did not think it would be a serious obstacle, and I strongly recommended her to make a clean breast of it, and to get her husband's forgiveness for the debts, and then everything would be right.

Justice Stephen: After seeing Mr. and Mrs. Maybrick separately I understood that he was to pay all her debts, whatever they were. He made very light of it.

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Mrs. Maybrick had no grievance against her husband more than I have told as to her repugnance to him except that she said he was frequently unkind to her. As far as I knew reconciliation took place.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. When did you first attend Mr. Maybrick?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I began to attend him as far back as 1882.

Sir Charles Russell: And did you attend him from time to time up to the end of 1888?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Between 1882 and June, last year, you have seen him a number of times?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: How often do you say you have seen him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Fifteen times or more.

Sir Charles Russell: And oftener?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Perhaps twenty.

Sir Charles Russell: Did he visit your house?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: He came to my house.

Sir Charles Russell: Were his complaints always the same?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No; on one occasion he had a cold and sore throat, but generally they were the same.

Sir Charles Russell: Were these complaints connected with the liver and digestive organs?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And the nerves?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was he a man that was rather given to exaggerate symptoms?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Not so much to exaggerate them as to attach undue importance to them.

Sir Charles Russell: You would call him hypochondriacal?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Distinctly so?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Seeing him for so long a period of time and so frequently, you can pretty well form an opinion about the man from his conversations and admissions?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was he a man given to dosing himself?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes, he was.

Sir Charles Russell: Distinctly?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Distinctly.

Sir Charles Russell: I would like you to tell the jury what you mean by that.

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I mean that, when he came to consult me, I was disappointed to find that between the visits he had been trying some new remedy recommended him by friends, and different from the medicines I had prescribed.

Sir Charles Russell: Do I understand that this happened more than once?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Somebody suggested to him and he took it?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: When you say more than once, do you mean frequently?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes, frequently.

Sir Charles Russell: Has he ever said anything to you as to whether he confined himself to the appointed doses of particular medicines or whether he exceeded them?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: He told me that, finding no effect from his medicine, he had doubled the dose, and that it had or had not disagreed with him.

Sir Charles Russell: Did that apply to the medicines obtained from other sources, or to your own prescriptions?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: From my memory, I should say it applied to my own prescriptions only.

Sir Charles Russell: What did you say when it was mentioned to you that he was taking double doses of this kind?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I said to him it was a dangerous habit; although he might escape scot free, he would some time do himself great injury.

Sir Charles Russell: He might have taken or not what would seriously injure him, although it might not prove fatal?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Quite so.

Sir Charles Russell: I want you to carry your mind back to the first time he consulted you. Were the symptoms mentioned to you nervous symptoms?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes; they were.

Sir Charles Russell: For instance, did he complain of numbness?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes; that was a frequent complaint.

Sir Charles Russell: Numbness -- in what part?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: In the extremities.

Sir Charles Russell: What part of the extremities?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: In the hands, feet, and also the legs.

Sir Charles Russell: That was a symptom he frequently complained of?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes, frequently.

Sir Charles Russell: You were aware that he lived in America for a considerable time?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: He had been in the habit of going over to and back from America?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you know a Dr. Seguard, of New York?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes, well.

Sir Charles Russell: Did deceased give you on any occasion a bundle of prescriptions written by Dr. Seguard?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Tell me first what became of those prescriptions.

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I destroyed them.

Sir Charles Russell: When?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: A few months since.

Sir Charles Russell: Were they principally prescriptions of the aphrodisiac kind?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes; strychnine was the chief, and nux vomica.

Sir Charles Russell: That is a sexual nerve tonic?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And so far as you recollect there was no arsenic in Dr. Seguard's prescriptions?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you aware that arsenic is a nerve tonic of the aphrodisiac character?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes; it is commonly used as such.

Sir Charles Russell: I want to ask you a particular question. You have spoken particularly of having been in charge and attendance upon this gentleman from June, 1888, to December, 1888. As early as June, 1888, did not Mrs. Maybrick make a communication to you as to certain habits of her husband?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: In June or September, I am not quite sure which.

Sir Charles Russell: I put it to you, was it not in June when you first began the attendance upon him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: It was either at the beginning of the attendance or shortly after my return from my holidays; but I am not clear which. My impression was she was not unreasonably anxious about the matter.

Sir Charles Russell: What did she say to you?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: She told me that Mr. Maybrick was in the habit of taking some very strong medicine which had a bad influence on him; for he always seemed worse after each dose. She wished me to see him about it, as he was very reticent in the matter.

Sir Charles Russell: She wished you to remonstrate with him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You understood that she wished you to do that with a view of putting a stop to it?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And you did, I think, upon the next occasion of your visit to the house, make some kind of search, and found nothing, at all events of a poisonous nature?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you remember whether she spoke at that time of his taking medicine or powder?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I do not remember that. I did not look for a powder. I looking in his dressing-room for bottles, but I did not find anything.

Sir Charles Russell: On the occasion of her coming to you in March, when she was accompanied by Mrs. Briggs, she had a black eye. Did you afterwards learn from her husband how that was inflicted?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes; I found that he had given it.

Sir Charles Russell: Now, I wish to draw your attention to one or two points in the evidence which you have given. You said that he had a strong habit of taking almost any medicine which was recommended to him, and of taking larger doses than was prescribed?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: He knew arsenic as a nerve tonic, and that it had similar properties to nux vomica and strychnine?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes, I believe so.

Sir Charles Russell: And I believe he told you that he had taken arsenic as an antiperiodic when he was in America?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I gathered as much from his conversation -- that he had taken it in America as an antiperiodic, and knew all about its properties.

Sir Charles Russell: Now, I ask you whether that conversation took place, or something like it, about the time when Mrs. Maybrick told you about his dosing himself by taking the medicine?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: It did not. It took place a considerable time before, and, in my mind, the two conversations had no connection.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you clear on that point in your own mind?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Certainly.

Sir Charles Russell: Had you that conversation with regard to his taking the arsenic as an antiperiodic in your mind when she made the statement to you about the middle of 1888?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No, it was not in my recollection at the time.

Sir Charles Russell: You did not follow it up by any inquiry from him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No, I had no anxiety about him.

Sir Charles Russell: What was Mr. Maybrick's appearance? Was he a smooth-skinned man?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes, he had a smooth and rather pale complexion.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you had any experience with the use of arsenic in this country?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I use arsenic very frequently.

Sir Charles Russell: Principally in Fowler's solution, I believe?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Has any case come across you in this country of men who have used arsenic habitually?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I have no personal experience.

Sir Charles Russell: Your experience is from books?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you tell me from experience what would probably be the effect of suddenly leaving off the use of arsenic by one who had been accustomed to taking it in small doses?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I cannot tell you from my experience the symptoms.

Sir Charles Russell: Is it a fact that, as regards stimulants, it is true to say that the sudden cessation of them is injurious?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I would say risky rather than injurious.

Sir Charles Russell: Is it the case with one class of stimulants -- alcoholic stimulants -- that the sudden disuse of alcohol by persons who have been taking a quantity may bring on delirium tremens?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And frequently it does?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: That is so.

Sir Charles Russell: You did say when you were asked about this conversation, that it was in June or September, you could not tell which?

Justice Stephen: He said so to-day.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you sure you did not prescribe arsenic yourself?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I am morally certain.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you tell me the last occasion when you saw him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: It would be in December, 1888, when I last saw him professionally.

Sir Charles Russell: The matters of which he complained, with the exception of the case in which you spoke of his having a cold, were uniformly the same?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Would this be a correct description -- that he suffered frequently from an impaired digestion and symptoms of nervous disease?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And during the whole of the period it was that deranged digestion and his nervous system for which you were treating him off and on from 1882 to the end of 1888, and that was so in December, 1888?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: That is so.

Sir Charles Russell: Did Mrs. Maybrick write to you a long letter on the eve of her husband's death?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you got it?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I haven't it with me.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you get it?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: I will ask to see it.

Justice Stephen: Did you attend Mr. Maybrick in his last illness?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Oh, no, my lord.

Mr. John Addison: Re-examining. You were saying that he had been hipped. What do you mean by that?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I mean that he attached too much importance to trifling symptoms.

Mr. John Addison: That is what you mean by being hipped?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: You say these symptoms are accompanied by complaints about the liver. Is it usual for them to go together?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I think a derangement of the liver is an exciting cause of hypochondrial condition of mind.

Mr. John Addison: You say he was given to dosing himself, and told you of remedies that friends had suggested. Did he ever tell you what the nature of the remedies were?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes; I remember he told me that he had habitually taken Fellows' syrup as a tonic.

Mr. John Addison: What is that made of?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Quinine, iron, arsenic, and hypophosphates. And it also contains strychnine.

Mr. John Addison: Is it a common remedy?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Justice Stephen: You mentioned arsenic. Perhaps you will be kind enough to repeat the articles used in the composition of the medicine.

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Hydrosulfate of quinine, iron, and strychnine.

Mr. John Addison: You mentioned strychnine. We know that in certain doses it is a serious poison. When given as a nerve tonic in what proportions do you use it?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Very minute doses in solution is what I frequently prescribed to him.

Mr. John Addison: Fellows' syrup -- is that a sort of patent medicine?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: Did he mention to you any other sort of medicine he ever took?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Podophyllin pills.

Mr. John Addison: They act primarily upon the liver?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: Two or three years ago it became a very popular remedy for the liver?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: Did he mention anything else his friends ever suggested to him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I also remember hop bitters, an American proprietary article.

Mr. John Addison: What is it made of as far as you know?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Medicinal bitters of an innocent character.

Mr. John Addison: Did he ever mention anything else?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I do not know exactly.

Mr. John Addison: Was he very free with you as to what he had taken?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I found him quite candid as to what he had taken.

Mr. John Addison: Had he been quite candid at all times up to December, 1888?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: He was always unreserved.

Justice Stephen: Were you an intimate personal friend at all?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I was merely the family doctor, and attended his wife in her confinement.

Mr. John Addison: Did he from first to last ever mention arsenic as the thing he was taking?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No, he never did.

Mr. John Addison: Except when he came from America in 1882?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I really cannot remember the date of that conversation, or how long after he came home from America.

Mr. John Addison: Did you know what part of America he had been to?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Norfolk, Virginia.

Mr. John Addison: Can you tell me whether, in that part of the world, ague, malaria, or other fevers are known?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I believe so.

Mr. John Addison: But at this period there was nothing, as far as you know, the matter with him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No. But roughly speaking, about June of last year he told me he had taken a bottle of mixture in half the time I prescribed.

Mr. John Addison: Do you remember what it was?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Bromide of potassium.

Mr. John Addison: It was on that occasion you told him?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: That was one of the occasions.

Mr. John Addison: On other occasions?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: I had occasion to warn him not to be so free with medicines or so careless about them.

Mr. John Addison: Strychnine and nux vomica are nerve tonics?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: In what sort of doses do you give these tonics?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: In solution of strychnine.

Mr. John Addison: What is the dose?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Three of four minims is a common dose.

Mr. John Addison: And nux vomica?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: About ten minims.

Mr. John Addison: In the same way?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: Had you, from anything he communicated to you, or from any other source, any reason to suppose that he was in the habit of using any arsenic whatever?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: No; I never thought of arsenic in connection with this discussion before.

Mr. John Addison: Is arsenic a stimulant?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: It would not be looked upon as a stimulant.

Mr. John Addison: Is it a tonic?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: What is it taken in, and what for?

Dr. A.R. Hopper: It is generally taken in solution, and with a form of ginger.

Witness: Mrs. Matilda Briggs.

Mrs. Briggs: Examined by Mr. McConnell. I am the wife of Thomas Charles Briggs, and I live at Livingstone Avenue, Sefton Park. I knew the deceased Mr. Maybrick before his marriage, and I afterwards became acquainted with Mrs. Maybrick. In 1882 Mr. and Mrs. Maybrick took a house belonging to us. His general health was that of a man always quite well. On 30th March last Mrs. Maybrick called at my house and made a statement to me with reference to a quarrel that had taken place between her husband and herself. I went with her to Dr. Hopper, and afterwards to her own lawyer. I also went to the General Post Office in Liverpool to get a private letter for her. I next saw her on Friday, 3rd May, the week before Mr. Maybrick died. She only made a complaint about her husband after the Grand National.

Justice Stephen: How long after?

Mrs. Briggs: The day after. Continuing examination. I heard of no quarrel of any consequence before that. I went to Battlecrease House on Wednesday, 8th May, and saw Nurse Yapp there, who made a statement to me. I went upstairs to Mr. Maybrick's bedroom, Mrs. Maybrick following immediately behind me. I had a conversation with Mr. Maybrick in her presence. He tried to tell me his symptoms, and said that he was very weary and restless. Upon that Mrs. Maybrick asked me to come downstairs and she would tell me what was the matter with him. I went downstairs, but I do not remember what Mrs. Maybrick told me. I suggested that she should send for a nurse, but she said there was no occasion for one, as she could nurse him herself. She gave that as also being the opinion of the doctor. I left the house about eleven or twelve o'clock, and I afterwards saw Mr. Edwin Maybrick, to whom I made a communication.

I again went to the house on the following Saturday. I was sent for between four and five o'clock in the morning, and I remained in the house till Mr. Maybrick died. On the following day I made a search of the house along with my sister and the two Mr. Maybricks. In the writing table in the dressing-room I found a small bottle containing fluid and a handkerchief (produced). I also found a small blue box in an ordinary hatbox in the same room. The hatbox contained a man's hat, and the smaller box contained three bottles (produced). In addition there was on the top of the box a bottle that had contained Valentine's extract. There was also a tumbler in another hatbox. In that tumbler there was a rag soaking in a whitish fluid, which looked like milk. I left the articles as I found them, and the same evening (Sunday) I saw them given over to the inspector. I was at the house again on Tuesday, the 14th. I saw Mrs. Maybrick in bed in the spare bedroom. I saw her writing a letter which, when she had signed, she gave to me. In that letter, which has been produced, Mrs. Maybrick asked Mr. Brierley to send her money.

Sir Charles Russell: On your reading the letter did you say anything?

Mrs. Briggs: I said it would be seen by the police, and gave it to the policeman at the door.

Sir Charles Russell: I understand it was in your character as friend that you accompanied her to Dr. Hopper?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And in the same character you took her to your solicitor's -- I believe it was your own solicitor you recommended her to?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: So that you were really very confidential in your relations to her?

Mrs. Briggs: That is so.

Sir Charles Russell: Except calling to inquire how Mrs. Maybrick was, you were not at the house during the illness until the 8th -- the Wednesday, that would be three days before Mr. Maybrick died?

Mrs. Briggs: That is the case.

Sir Charles Russell: You were aware, were you not, that his brother, Mr. Edwin Maybrick, had been in Liverpool since the 25th of April?

Mrs. Briggs: I knew of his arrival in Liverpool.

Sir Charles Russell: And you knew that he was in communication with Mr. Michael Maybrick, his brother?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: So that if it was considered necessary to communicate with Mr. Michael Maybrick, Mr. Edwin Maybrick could have done so?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: The fact was, Mrs. Briggs, when you saw this poor gentleman you came to the conclusion he was in a very bad way?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And you expressed your opinion to that effect?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Is it not a fact that he was in a very much more serious condition than you would have thought up to that time?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Mr. Edwin Maybrick had been stopping in the house for some time?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And had been, I don't know whether every night, but off and on, from his arrival on the 25th April, had been actually sleeping in the house?

Mrs. Briggs: I don't know that.

Sir Charles Russell: You in fact formed a very bad opinion of the man's condition?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You formed a very serious opinion of it. You though him in peril?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Serious peril?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: I must ask you to remember one or two things that you have not told us about which occurred that morning. Don't you know that on Wednesday, before your visit, Mrs. Maybrick had telegraphed to Hale for a nurse?

Mrs. Briggs: I know now. I did not know then.

Sir Charles Russell: You did not know then?

Mrs. Briggs: No, she did not tell me herself.

Sir Charles Russell: You have now ascertained it?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was it your suggestion that the nurse sent for should be a trained nurse?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And did she fall in with your suggestion?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, in the end.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you hear that after the arrival of Dr. Humphreys?

Mrs. Briggs: I don't know who told me.

Sir Charles Russell: I think you wrote the telegram in her name, showed it to her, and she paid for it and sent it by a messenger?

Mrs. Briggs: No, I took it myself.

Sir Charles Russell: She paid for it?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: With regard to that letter (to Mr. Brierley), is it not a fact that you suggested the writing of it?

Mrs. Briggs: I did in sarcasm.

Sir Charles Russell: You were examined on this before the coroner's jury; did you say one word about making the suggestion in sarcasm then?

Mrs. Briggs: No, I was too nervous.

Sir Charles Russell: At all events, whether you suggested it in sarcasm or not, you suggested it?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And when handed to you it was open?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You did not require to tear the envelope open to see the contents?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Sir Charles Russell: You were asked to read it?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And when you saw the writing did you expostulate with her for writing?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Then when she had written it and handed it to you to read, did you say you would hand it to the policeman?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, if she wished it to go.

Sir Charles Russell: And you know, as a matter of fact, that it never reached its destination?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: I wish to get from you a few particulars. The first article you have mentioned in which arsenic was found was the writing table?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Where was the writing table?

Mrs. Briggs: In the inner room off the bedroom.

Sir Charles Russell: Is that the room in which there was a bed?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And did you know enough to know that the bed in that room was used?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: It was used by him?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Where did the writing table stand?

Mrs. Briggs: Near the window, right away from the bed, on the opposite side of the room.

Sir Charles Russell: As you enter the inner door from the principal bedroom there is a window on the left of the room?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And a window facing as you enter?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Then how was the table with reference to the windows -- was it between them or opposite?

Mrs. Briggs: It was opposite the window to the left.

Sir Charles Russell: Was the writing table unlocked?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes; there was a little cupboard under the writing table.

Sir Charles Russell: What did you find in it?

Mrs. Briggs: Odds and ends.

Sir Charles Russell: Amongst other things, did you find some picture cord, hammer, and nails?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, that kind of thing.

Sir Charles Russell: And did the small bottle and handkerchief meet your eye when you opened it?

Mrs. Briggs: No, they were quite far back.

Sir Charles Russell: I do not know whether you know that the small bottle contained oxide of zinc?

Mrs. Briggs: I do not know.

Sir Charles Russell: The first hatbox you found in your search -- where was it?

Mrs. Briggs: In the corner of the room.

Sir Charles Russell: Whereabouts?

Mrs. Briggs: Behind the bed, and at the foot of the bed.

Sir Charles Russell: Further out in the room?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, in the corner. It was in the furthest corner, at the right-hand side.

Sir Charles Russell: Points out the position of the bed in the room to Justice Stephen. I want to clearly understand these things. Was the hatbox on the floor?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: It was not secured or fastened?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Sir Charles Russell: And it did, in fact, contain a hat?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: What sort of a hat was it?

Mrs. Briggs: One was a soft hat, and another was a tall one.

Sir Charles Russell: Yes, but I am asking you about the first hatbox -- were the hatboxes standing beside each other, or one on the top of the other?

Mrs. Briggs: I think beside each other.

Sir Charles Russell: When you opened the first you found a small wooden box, and it contained three bottles, and on the top of the box there was a bottle of Valentine's meat extract?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: In the second hatbox, which you say was standing near the first, you found a glass, and there was something like milk in it with a rag?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you told us, Mrs. Briggs, the result of the search so far as you took part in it?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was there anything, so far as your observation extended, except Mrs. Maybrick's wardrobe, that was in any way secured or locked?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware that no bottles or anything else connected with this case were found in the wardrobe?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you in the course of your observations see that a large number of bottles were in the house?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Presumably the class of medicine bottles?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: A very large number, was there not?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Would it be an exaggeration to say that there were more than one hundred?

Mrs. Briggs: Well, I could not say. There were several.

Sir Charles Russell: But several is a very long way short of one hundred. Were there as many as fifty in one room?

Mrs. Briggs: I could not tell, but I know there were a good many.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you know anything about this habit which is imputed to the dead man of his dosing himself with medicine and things suggested by friends?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was that well known among his friends?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, I think so.

Sir Charles Russell: Has he been remonstrated with or rallied about it in your presence?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: How did you come to know it?

Mrs. Briggs: He used to recommend me medicines. He recommended me to take hydrophosphites and things like it.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you know what hydrophosphites are?

Mrs. Briggs: A tonic, I think, to give you an appetite. That was a long time ago.

Sir Charles Russell: Anything else?

Mrs. Briggs: Not that I remember.

Mr. John Addison: You say you suggested this letter to the prisoner. What did you say to her?

Mrs. Briggs: I think I said to her that Mr. Brierley might help her, as he knew her troubles.

Sir Charles Russell: Did it come to your knowledge, or was it put to you, that traces of arsenic were found in one bottle of Valentine's meat juice which had not been administered to the deceased man? Do you recollect that?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did it also come to your knowledge that arsenic was found in some or most of certain bottles, which will be pointed to particularly hereafter? That was so, was it not?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect of hearing that arsenic was found in certain bottles?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: I am alluding to the time when you had the conversation with Mrs. Maybrick herself?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect telling her that fact?

Mrs. Briggs: I think I mentioned it.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you remember your mentioning particularly Valentine's meat juice? Let me recall your mind to the fact. Dr. Carter took it away on the Friday night, and came back on Saturday morning, having tested it. You learned that before you left the house?

Mrs. Briggs: I do not remember.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you not mention that to Mrs. Maybrick?

Mrs. Briggs: Something was said about it by Nurse Wilson.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect Mrs. Maybrick beginning a sentence when a policeman came into the room and stopped her?

Mrs. Briggs: Hesitates.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect the policeman coming into the room?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Sir Charles Russell: On the occasion of the conversation at which one of the nurses was present, did not a policeman come into the room and interrupt the conversation?

Mrs. Briggs: I do not recollect.

Sir Charles Russell: Try to recollect. This lady was practically in custody, and there was a policeman in the house. Was Mrs. Maybrick ill in bed?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you in her room?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was your sister, Mrs. Hughes, is her room?

Mrs. Briggs: No, at the door.

Sir Charles Russell: Was a nurse in the room?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You and the nurse were in the room, and your sister at the door. On that occasion was there any conversation which was interrupted?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes. My sister said to me, "You are not to say anything," and the policeman said, "You are not to speak."

Sir Charles Russell: And was that at the time, as well as you can recollect, when you were mentioning to Mrs. Maybrick what had been found in relation to Valentine's meat juice?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, I think it was.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you gather from what your sister said that it was the policeman who desired that there should be no conversation with Mrs. Maybrick about this?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: The door was open?

Mrs. Briggs: Well, yes; it was partly open -- it was not shut.

Sir Charles Russell: Exactly. Your sister and the policeman, being on the landing, could hear the fact that there was a conversation going on?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, they could.

Sir Charles Russell: These rooms are not very large, I believe?

Mrs. Briggs: Not very, but they are a good size.

Sir Charles Russell: And they could hear the conversation?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes, every word.

Sir Charles Russell: It was upon the conversation in this room on Valentine's meat juice that the policeman said you must have no conversation?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Then the conversation, if there was any, was interrupted in that way?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Had you been more than a moment or two in that room at that time?

Mrs. Briggs: I was never very long at any time in the room.

Sir Charles Russell: On this occasion you had gone into the room and opened the conversation, and your sister interrupted?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you know the policeman's name?

Mrs. Briggs: No, I do not.

Mr. John Addison: Re-examining. When did you first know there were traces of poison in the Valentine meat juice?

Mrs. Briggs: I really cannot remember.

Mr. John Addison: When did you first learn it? You know you left the house on the Wednesday, and he died on the Saturday. Did you know it before he died?

Mrs. Briggs: I think so.

Mr. John Addison: When did you know poison was found in the bottle?

Mrs. Briggs: I cannot remember the exact day, but my impression is that I heard it before I left the house.

Mr. John Addison: Before or after his death?

Mrs. Briggs: Before his death.

Mr. John Addison: Now, did you mention that in any shape or form to Mrs. Maybrick?

Mrs. Briggs: I really could not say for certain. I think Nurse Wilson mentioned it.

Mr. John Addison: To Mrs. Maybrick?

Mrs. Briggs: Yes.

Mr. John Addison: Did you mention anything about it?

Mrs. Briggs: I may have done, but I have forgotten, and could not say positively.

Mr. John Addison: Now, do you know whether any other poison was found in the house?

Mrs. Briggs: I do not remember; there were so many bottles that I cannot remember. I heard there had been poison found in the bottles.

Mr. John Addison: When did you hear about the fly- papers?

Mrs. Briggs: I heard about them on Wednesday.

Mr. John Addison: And did you speak about them to Mrs. Maybrick?

Mrs. Briggs: No.

Mr. John Addison: Now, with regard to handing the letter to the policeman at the door, all letters or messages had to go through him, had they not? Mrs. Briggs: Yes; I handed it to him, so that it might be forwarded.

Dr. Fuller is now called, but does not appear.

Witness: Mrs. Martha Louisa Hughes

Mrs. M.L. Hughes:Examined by Mr. Addison. I am a sister of Mrs. Briggs. I live in Sefton Park, Liverpool, and was acquainted with the late Mr. Maybrick for a considerable time. We met several times at Battlecrease House, where I went with my sister. I was at the house the day after his death. I found some letters (produced) in the middle drawer of the dressing-table, and handed them to Mr. Michael Maybrick. The dressing-table was in Mrs. Maybrick's bedroom. A day or two after Mr. Maybrick's death I heard a conversation take place between Mrs. Maybrick and my sister in the morning-room downstairs. The conversation was with reference to a telegram to a nurse. I don't remember saying anything about a policeman being there.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. How long were you in the house?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Till Tuesday evening.

Sir Charles Russell: Were the circumstances of the death the subject of the conversation between you and your sister and the nurse?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect hearing that arsenic was traced, and that it had been found in a bottle of Valentine's meat juice?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And you also heard something about fly-papers?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you hear also of a packet labeled, "Poison" being found?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Now, when did you hear about these things?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: I do not quite know what you mean.

Sir Charles Russell: When did you learn about Valentine's meat juice? Did you learn that on Saturday or Sunday?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: I heart it on the Saturday.

Sir Charles Russell: Was it from Dr. Carter you heard it?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: No.

Sir Charles Russell: From whom?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Mr. Michael Maybrick.

Sir Charles Russell: And when did you learn about the fly- papers?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: On the Wednesday before the death.

Sir Charles Russell: Also from Mr. Michael Maybrick?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: No.

Sir Charles Russell: From whom?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: From Nurse Yapp.

Sir Charles Russell: And when did you learn about the packet being found labeled, "Poison?"

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: I heard that on the Sunday after the death.

Justice Stephen: On what day did you hear about the Valentine's meat juice?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: On the Saturday evening.

Justice Stephen: And the day of the fly-papers?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: On the Wednesday before his death.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you there when Mrs. Maybrick was very ill and was in bed?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And I do not know whether you were there when she was carried from the dressing-room into the spare room?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: I was in the passage.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect your being on the landing outside the spare room where Mrs. Briggs, your sister, and one of the nurses was in the room with Mrs. Maybrick?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes; I was out on the landing every time my sister was in the room.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect a policeman being on the landing also and interrupting a conversation?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And were you and he both in the position of hearing a conversation?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect what that conversation was about? Had it reference to the Valentine's meat juice, and the traces of arsenic supposed to be found in it?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you recollect whether Mrs. Maybrick was beginning to make any statement with reference to it or not?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Or upon your sister mentioning this?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: I do not remember.

Sir Charles Russell: Did the policeman intervene and say there must be no conversation?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And that you conveyed into the other room?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: The door was open; I did not go in.

Sir Charles Russell: But did you convey that into the room?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Which put an end to any explanation or conversation?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Mr. Addison: Do you remember what the conversation was about?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: No.

Mr. Addison: You can only say there was something said. You said the policeman had said nothing was to be said, and you repeated it?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: Yes.

Mr. Addison: When had you a conversation with Nurse Yapp?

Mrs. M.L. Hughes: On the Wednesday.

Mr. Addison: What did Nurse Yapp say?

Sir Charles Russell: I object.

Justice Stephen: Sir Charles Russell is quite right.

Witness: Mr. Edwin Maybrick

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Examined by Mr. Addison. I am a brother of the deceased. I am a cotton merchant in Liverpool, and spend a good deal of my time in America. I returned from that country on 25th April, and on the following day I saw my brother in his office. I dined with him that evening. He appeared to be in his usual health. So far as I knew my brother on the whole enjoyed very good health. From time to time he took ordinary liver medicine.

Mr. Addison: Any sort of arsenic?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No. Continuing. On Saturday, 27th April, I saw my brother for a moment when passing to the Wirral races. On Sunday, the 28th, I went to his house and found him lying on a sofa, apparently ill. He said he had been taken ill on the previous morning, but that feeling somewhat better, he had gone out to the Wirral races, where he had not felt himself the whole day. He also said that he had numbness in the legs and in the hands. After he returned, about eight o'clock in the evening, Mrs. Maybrick sat talking to me in the breakfast-room for nearly an hour. A ring then came from the chamber bell, and Mrs. Maybrick went upstairs. I followed, and found my brother lying in bed. He had almost lost the use of both legs and his right hand. He asked me to rub them for him, and Mrs. Maybrick and I did so until Dr. Humphreys came. I stayed at the house that night, at my brother's request, and on Monday morning I found him rather better. I went out and did not see him again till the next day. He was then pretty much the same as on Monday.

On Wednesday, 1st May, my brother went to business. Mrs. Maybrick gave me a parcel to take to his office. I afterwards learned that it contained a brown jug in which there was some farinaceous food in liquid form. My brother poured the liquid into a saucepan and heated it over the fire, and he then poured it into a basin and partook of it. He remarked, "The cook has put some of that -- sherry into it, and she knows I don't like it." Some time after that I asked him how he was, and he said that he had not felt so well since his lunch. I went in the evening to Battlecrease House to dinner. My brother was not quite so well then as in the morning, but he complained of nothing particular. I did not see my brother take his lunch on the Thursday. On Friday I was informed that he had gone to have a Turkish bath.

I did not see my brother again until Sunday, the 5th, when I went to the house. He told me he had been very sick, and that he vomited, and could not retain anything in his stomach. I gave him a brandy and soda, which he retained for about half an hour, but on my giving him a dose of physic he vomited it. He was very sick all that afternoon. Dr. Humphreys came that evening and said he had better not take anything to eat or drink for the present, and if he were thirsty he was to have a wet towel put to his mouth. I did not see any towel put to his mouth. My brother asked me to stay for the night, and after that day he never left his bed.

On the Thursday he was still very sick, but he was rather better than he was on the previous day. In consequence of a telegram which I received from Mrs. Maybrick on the Tuesday I arranged with Dr. Carter to be at Battlecrease House at half-past five, and I also telegraphed to Dr. Humphreys to join us there. On arriving at Battlecrease by the 4:45 train, I met the doctors there, and told them what I knew of my brother's condition. On that night my brother's condition was pretty much the same; he was very weak, he was vomiting, and he was pained in the bowels as well. He complained very much about his throat and about having a difficulty in swallowing.

On Wednesday, the 8th, he seemed a little better. I asked him whether he would like me to bring my brother Michael down, but he said no -- that he did not think it was necessary, that he had been very ill, but he felt a little better. He asked me what I thought about sending for a nurse, and I told him that I would ask the doctor. Mrs. Maybrick said she thought of sending to Halewood for a nurse who had been attending her, because my brother knew her and liked her. I saw Dr. Carter that morning, and, in consequence of what he told me, I did not telegraph for my brother at that time. About twelve o'clock that day I received another telegram from Mrs. Maybrick. I do not have that telegram here; I am not quite certain as to whether it was was destroyed. In it she said, "Jim worse again; have wired for a nurse." On receipt of that message I telegraphed to my brother Michael to come down, and I went myself to Battlecrease by the 12:40 train. I met Mrs. Briggs and Mrs. Hughes there, and in consequence of a conversation which I had with them I went to the Nurses' Institution. I found that Nurse Gore had already been sent to Battlecrease. Approaching the house, I saw Nurse Yapp in the drive. We went to a seat in the garden, out of sight of the house, and there she gave me the letter addressed to Mr. Brierley. Later in the day I met my brother Michael as he arrived from London. On the way to the house we had a conversation, and when we got to Battlecrease I gave certain instructions to Nurse Gore.

The following day my brother was better, and I went to town to arrange for nurses. On Friday morning I went to bring Dr. Humphreys. About one o'clock my brother became worse and could not take any nourishment, and at half-past eight in the evening of Saturday, the 11th, he died. I first saw the chocolate box in the breakfast room when it was brought down by Nurse Yapp. The policeman came on the Sunday evening. On Monday a post-mortem examination was held, and the preliminary inquest was held on the Tuesday. The dressing-gown produced is, I think, Mrs. Maybrick's. It was worn by her when she was attending to my brother at night, and also in the morning. The gown was taken by one of the professional nurses out of the room, and was hung up in the lavatory, which was then open. I took it out of there and put it into a cupboard. The next time I had anything to do with the gown was on 13th June, when I handed it over to Inspector Baxendale. The apron produced was also, I believe, with the dressing-gown, but I cannot be quite certain. I noticed a handkerchief in the pocket of the dressing-gown, and I handed it and the apron to Inspector Baxendale.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. When did you arrive at Battlecrease?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: On the 25th April.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you backwards and forwards at Battlecrease up to the time of your brother's death?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you sleep at the house a number of days?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: How many?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I slept there on the Sunday after I arrived, on the Tuesday, the 30th April, and not again until the Sunday following, and then I slept there every night until his death.

Sir Charles Russell: And, with the exception of a few nights, you were there the greater part of the time?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did Mrs. Maybrick seem attentive to her husband?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did she sit up at night?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, most nights, I believe. I understand so.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you in the house on Sunday, the 28th April?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you there when she sent for Dr. Humphreys on the Sunday?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, in the evening. He had already been there in the morning before I arrived.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you there when she sent for him in the first instance?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No.

Sir Charles Russell: But you have ascertained, I presume, that she had sent for him in the morning?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Were you there at the time?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No.

Sir Charles Russell: He was the only medical man living near to the house?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes. He only lived ten minutes' walk away.

Sir Charles Russell: Dr. Humphreys was in sole attendance upon him up to Tuesday, the 7th?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, as far as I know.

Sir Charles Russell: And on Tuesday, the 7th May, Dr. Carter was called in, and he and Dr. Humphreys were in attendance upon the patient up to his death?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect on the Tuesday Mrs. Maybrick suggesting that you should send your own medical man?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: She telegraphed to me suggesting that Dr. M'Cheyne (a medical man and a friend of mine) should be sent for. Dr. M'Cheyne did not go out as a rule, but held consultations. Mrs. Maybrick had heard me mention the name to my brother James, and that was how she came to know the name.

Sir Charles Russell: You went to Dr. Carter?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Had you any communication with Dr. Carter before you went to Battlecrease?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No. I never saw him.

Sir Charles Russell: You had not written to him?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I telephoned to him.

Sir Charles Russell: You communicated with him to make an appointment, but had no communication with him until he came to Battlecrease?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: That was Tuesday?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Had he any communication with Dr. Humphreys before he came out to Battlecrease?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Not to my knowledge.

Sir Charles Russell: Another matter I wish to ask you about. Did she speak about a nurse?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was that first mentioned on Tuesday or Wednesday?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: It was first mentioned on Wednesday morning.

Sir Charles Russell: Do you recollect whether the nurse was Mrs. Low, of Hale?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I don't recollect any name being mentioned.

Sir Charles Russell: Was it some one at Hale?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was the telegram sent to that person?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I do not know.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you heard since?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I have since learned that she was telegraphed for.

Sir Charles Russell: The conversation about the nurse being sent for was early on Wednesday morning, was it not, before you went to town?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: From the Wednesday morning until the death had you privately forbidden any intervention by Mrs. Maybrick in the nursing or administration of medicine or food?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I instructed Nurse Gore. I gave orders on Wednesday night, and repeated them on Thursday morning.

Sir Charles Russell: Were the orders on Wednesday night or on Wednesday morning?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: On Wednesday night. The nurse did not arrive till Wednesday afternoon.

Sir Charles Russell: Which nurse?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Nurse Gore.

Sir Charles Russell: At two o'clock, did she not?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, but I did not see her.

Sir Charles Russell: What time of day did you see her?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: As far as I can recollect, at about five o'clock.

Sir Charles Russell: As far as you know and have observed, were your orders on that point observed and carried out?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Upon the whole, I think they were.

Sir Charles Russell: The nurses are here who had successive charge of him -- one relieving the other, I believe?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: They are, I believe.

Sir Charles Russell: Now, I want this quite definitely -- your instructions were specific and distinct, that neither as to medicine, nor as to food, was Mrs. Maybrick to have anything to do with it?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I never mentioned her name in the matter, but I told the nurses I should hold them responsible for all foods and all medicines given to him, and that nobody was to attend to him at all except the nurses. But I did not mention any names.

Sir Charles Russell: Still, that would be the effect of the orders?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, it would. I would exclude her and everybody else except the nurses.

Sir Charles Russell: But there was nobody else to exclude?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: There might have been a servant for all I knew.

Sir Charles Russell: But, at all events, it was Mrs. Maybrick you had in your mind?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you tell her you had given these instructions?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Or did you address any statement, or advice, or direction to her on the matter?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No, none whatever, as far as I can recollect.

Sir Charles Russell: Now, as to another matter. What was the day on which you took down food to the office?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Wednesday, 1st May.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you tell me if the previous occasion on which food was taken to the office was on the Tuesday?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: The only days on which food was taken down were Wednesday and Thursday.

Sir Charles Russell: So far as you know, food was not taken down to the office except on those two days?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: So far as I know.

Sir Charles Russell: Now, I ask you this -- Did you learn how the food affected your brother on the Wednesday; do you suggest that he was sick after it? By sick do you mean vomiting?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Oh, no. I do not suggest any such thing. No, I have never stated that. I spoke to him on that occasion, and he said that he did not feel so well since his lunch.

Sir Charles Russell: Is it not the fact that, on that same day, he dined at home in company with your wife?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I beg your pardon, I am not married.

Sir Charles Russell: It is my mistake. The company consisted of Captain Irving, of the White Star Line, yourself, your brother, and his wife?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Justice Stephen: The food was taken down by you on Wednesday and by some one else on the second day; which day was it when you asked him how he felt, and when he said he did not feel so well after luncheon?

Sir Charles Russell: That was on Wednesday, my lord; it was the day when he had dinner at home with Captain Irving and his brother. Continuing cross-examination. Now, there is another matter I should like to ask you about, and that is, if you have seen the cash-box which Mrs. Maybrick said was hers?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, it is a small cash-box.

Sir Charles Russell: You are aware that possession of the box was demanded by Mr. Cleaver. Where is it?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: It is at the house now; it is locked up in the linen closet. The house, with the exception of the linen closet, is empty.

Sir Charles Russell: Is there any objection to its being produced?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: None, so far as I know. Sir Charles Russell: Did you find amongst your brother's papers a bundle of prescriptions?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: There were several prescriptions found in the room on its being searched by Mr. Baxendale.

Sir Charles Russell: Where are they?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Mr. Baxendale took possession of them.

Sir Charles Russell: Where are they?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I do not know.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you sure you do not?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: So far as I know, I did not see a prescription of Dr. Ward.

Sir Charles Russell: There may have been one amongst those which Mr. Baxendale took?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: There may have been.

Sir Charles Russell: Have you not said to Mr. Baxendale that you had seen them?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I do not remember.

Sir Charles Russell: Are they in Court?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I cannot say.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you find any of these prescriptions -- any from Dr. Ward, of Norfolk, Virginia?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Not that I am aware of. I should have noticed them at once, knowing the gentleman, if I had seen anything of the kind.

Sir Charles Russell: So far as you recollect, you did not see them?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I did not.

Sir Charles Russell: But they may have been amongst these prescriptions?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes; they may have been.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you not get any prescriptions at the office among your brother's papers?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Mr. Baxendale went to the office; and, if there were any, he must have taken them away.

Sir Charles Russell: My first question way, did you find any there?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: So far as I remember, no; but Mr. Baxendale may have done.

Sir Charles Russell: In addition to these, there were a large number of bottles found at the office?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes, I believe so.

Sir Charles Russell: I am told as many as twenty-eight. There was no arsenic in these?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I believe not.

Sir Charles Russell: Can you make it convenient to look at the prescriptions tonight, and see whether there are any from Dr. Ward, of Virginia?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Certainly, if they are handed to me.

Sir Charles Russell: There is another matter to which I should allude now. On the 30th of April, you did not think your brother was very unwell?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: No; not seriously so.

Sir Charles Russell: You escorted his wife to some entertainment -- to a domino ball?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes; to a private domino ball at Wavertree.

Sir Charles Russell: You were her escort on that occasion?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you know that he was taking ipecacuanha wine at the time?

Mr. Edwin Maybrick: I don't know.

Witness: Thomas Symington Wokes

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Examined by Mr. Swift. I am a chemist in Aigburth, and I also have the post office there. I knew the late Mr. Maybrick and his wife.

Here Justice Stephen interrupts, saying he has received from Mr. Edwin Maybrick a number of prescriptions, and asks if Sir Charles Russell wished to see them. Sir Charles answers in the affirmative.

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Continuing. I remember an occasion when Mrs. Maybrick called upon me, somewhere about the 24th April last, and purchased from me a dozen fly-papers. The fly-papers (produced) are of a similar kind to the ones I sold her. She made a remark to me at the time that the flies were beginning to get troublesome in the kitchen. I had sold only one lot of fly-papers before that during the present year. I had an account against the deceased, but Mrs. Maybrick paid for the fly-papers. I sent my boy with the fly-papers to the house.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. You knew Mrs. Maybrick very well?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: She lived close to you?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Probably you would address her by her name?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: You sold fly-papers at other times not in hot weather?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you aware that washed for the hair are made from it?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: I am not aware of it.

Sir Charles Russell: But you have yourself sold papers in the season when they have not been wanted for killing flies?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: I cannot remember a similar instance except the lot I sold -- the one previous to this lot. But the first lot was not for a wash or flies.

Sir Charles Russell: What were they wanted for?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: For beetles.

Sir Charles Russell: When was that, do you recollect?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: I believe it was in the month of February.

Sir Charles Russell: It was for some one whom you knew, also?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Was this parcel rolled up with the ends open? Was it wrapped up with the ends turned in cylindrical form?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: She didn't take them with her?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: No.

Sir Charles Russell: What are they a dozen?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: Sixpence a dozen.

Sir Charles Russell: How long have you been in business there?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: One year and eleven months.

Mr. Addison: Re-examining. Have you any means of fixing the date when these fly-papers were purchased?

Mr. T.S. Wokes: It was not earlier than the 15th nor later than the 25th of April.

Witness: Christopher Hanson

Mr. C. Hanson: Examined by Mr. Swift. I am a chemist and druggist at Cressington. Mrs. Maybrick was a customer at my shop. On the 29th April last she came to my shop for a lotion and purchased two dozen fly-papers, which cost one shilling. The fly- papers were similar to those produced. She had an account running, and did not usually pay at the time of ordering. Upon this occasion she paid for the fly-papers, but not for the lotion. She took the fly-papers with her. I have since analyzed some of my fly-papers, and have found each paper to contain from one to two and a half grains of arsenic.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. Was it not arsenic of soda?

Mr. C. Hanson: No, it was arsenical acid, or white arsenic.

Sir Charles Russell: White arsenic is another name for it?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: How long have you been in your business, Mr. Hanson?

Mr. C. Hanson: Two and a half years.

Sir Charles Russell: Cressington is close to Battlecrease; it is in the neighbourhood of Aigburth?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes, it is about ten minutes' walk from it.

Sir Charles Russell: How long have you known Mrs. Maybrick?

Mr. C. Hanson: From a few days after going to Cressington.

Sir Charles Russell: You had an account from the house?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: These lotions and things which you have to make up are such that the price must be computed in accordance with the ingredients?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: But in the case of fly-papers that is not so?

Mr. C. Hanson: No, they have their regular price.

Sir Charles Russell: You just describe to us what took place in the shop when Mrs. Maybrick bought the things.

Mr. C. Hanson: She came into the shop and brought a paper with the ingredients of a lotion written down; it was not a doctor's prescription. She had that made up, and while waiting, and I suppose seeing the fly-papers on the counter, she asked for some.

Sir Charles Russell: They were on the counter, were they? You have not told us about that yet.

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: They were in a conspicuous position?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Just explain how that was.

Mr. C. Hanson: There was a glass case, and on either side of the glass case there was a shelf, and it was on the shelf nearest the door that these fly-papers were.

Sir Charles Russell: And while the lotion was being prepared she gave the order for the fly-papers?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: What was the lotion which she ordered -- what were the ingredients?

Mr. C. Hanson: Tincture of benzoin and elderflowers.

Sir Charles Russell: That is a cosmetic, is it not?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Is it within your experience that arsenic is an ingredient in many cosmetic preparations?

Mr. C. Hanson: It is, sir; quite common.

Sir Charles Russell: It softens the skin?

Mr. C. Hanson: I don't know what it is for.

Sir Charles Russell: You know, I presume, it is a depilatory?

Justice Stephen: To the jury. That is, it takes off hairs.

Mr. C. Hanson: I am not aware it has that quality.

Sir Charles Russell: You know that it is sold by artists in hair for that purpose?

Mr. C. Hanson: I don't know, sir.

Sir Charles Russell: I must further ask you -- knowing, as you have told us, that arsenic was common as an ingredient in cosmetics, is not that mixture of benzoin and elderflowers a lotion in which arsenic would very likely be used?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes, sir, it is.

Sir Charles Russell: Is it not a very common thing to sell arsenical fly-papers at seasons when they are not wanted for the destruction of insects? Have you not so sold them?

Mr. C. Hanson: Not in the depth of winter.

Sir Charles Russell: But in the spring and autumn?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you know the purposes for which they were going to be applied?

Mr. C. Hanson: No.

Sir Charles Russell: I understand that you have sold them at a time when they were not needed for the destruction of flies?

Mr. C. Hanson: Sometimes.

Sir Charles Russell: Now I don't know whether you, as a chemist, make up and sell lotions for toilet purposes?

Mr. C. Hanson: I do; but I don't make up any lotions containing arsenic.

Sir Charles Russell: I do not suggest that; but lotions for toilet purposes?

Mr. C. Hanson: Oh, yes. I very frequently make up similar lotions to what Mrs. Maybrick had, but I have no proprietary lotion.

Sir Charles Russell: You make them up if you are asked?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: And only when you are asked?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Mr. Addison: Re-examining. Did you ever sell fly- papers for the purpose of making cosmetics?

Mr. C. Hanson: No.

Mr. Addison: Is it not a fact that in cosmetics arsenic is used?

Mr. C. Hanson: Not in my case.

Mr. Addison: In what form is it generally used?

Mr. C. Hanson: It is used as a paste, and it is combined with bismuth.

Mr. Addison: You believe, as a matter of knowledge in your profession, it is used in these cosmetics?

Mr. C. Hanson: Yes.

Mr. Addison: What are its effects?

Mr. C. Hanson: I do not know.

Mr. Addison: Did you ever hear of its being used as a cosmetic except in the regular form?

Mr. C. Hanson: No.

Mr. Addison: Not fly-papers?

Mr. C. Hanson: Certainly not.

Witness: John Sefton.

Mr. J. Sefton: Examined. I am an assistant to Mr. Wokes. I do not recollect how long ago I was sent with a parcel to Battlecrease House, and went to the back door with it. I was told to put it on the stairs, and I did so, and left it there. It was a parcel given to me by Mr. Wokes for Mrs. Maybrick.

Witness: George Smith

Mr. G. Smith: Examined by Mr. Addison. I was bookkeeper to the late Mr. James Maybrick for a period of four years. The deceased's health was generally good. He sometimes complained of his liver. He had discussed the question of homeopathy, but not with me. On the day of the Wirral races deceased came to the office at about half-past ten in the morning. He was not looking well, and went away between twelve and one o'clock. On the following Monday, the 29th, he came to the office at about two o'clock. He did not look very well. On the 30th he came to the office at one o'clock, and still did not look well. On Wednesday, the 1st May, he came to the office, and I saw him warming food in a pan for his lunch. I did not notice him particularly after his lunch. He said on the Wednesday that he was very seedy. On Thursday he came to the office again, and also on Friday. On that day he did not seem at all well. He was very pale. He left, and never came again.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. There were no medicine bottles sold from the office? Do you know what was done with the bottles, or whose perquisites they were?

Mr. G. Smith: They never were sold with my knowledge.

Sir Charles Russell: If they were sold, who would have the right to sell?

Mr. G. Smith: I don't know.

Sir Charles Russell: Are you aware of any of these bottles being sold?

Mr. G. Smith: I am not aware.

Sir Charles Russell: How many were found in the office at the time of his death?

Mr. G. Smith: I think twenty.

Sir Charles Russell: I am told twenty-eight. But, however, were some of these endorsed in writing by the deceased himself?

Mr. G. Smith: I don't know.

Sir Charles Russell: You didn't examine them?

Mr. G. Smith: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Beyond your observation that he did not look very well, was there anything at all in his condition to attract your attention?

Mr. G. Smith: No; he seemed to be very pale.

Sir Charles Russell: Was there anything further?

Mr. G. Smith: No.

Sir Charles Russell: Was he ever sick in the office?

Mr. G. Smith: No.

Mr. Addison: Re-examining. Were all the medicine bottles found in the office given up to Inspector Baxendale?

Mr. G. Smith: Yes.

Witness: Thomas Lowry

Mr. T. Lowry: Examined by Mr. McConnell. I was in the employment of the late Mr. James Maybrick for nearly five years. On Saturday, the 27th April, the deceased came down to the office about eleven o'clock, and in my hearing he made complaint of stiffness in his limbs. He left the office between twelve and one to go to some races. On Monday, the 29th, the deceased came down to the office between eleven and twelve, looking unwell. To the best of my recollection, he came down on the Tuesday, and stayed about half an hour. I was sent out with a parcel, and I took out some letters. The parcel contained some of Du Barry's food, "Revalenta Arabica," and I took it from the office to the house. I recollect Mr. Maybrick coming to the office on the 1st May, about eleven o'clock. He sent me out to buy a saucepan, a basin, and a spoon. The articles produced are something like those I purchased. Upon giving the articles to Mr. Maybrick, he poured some liquid into the saucepan out of a jug, and put it on the fire, and he afterwards partook of it. The vessels were afterwards left in the office. On the next day, when he came to the office, he wasn't very well. He had lunch again, and warmed the food as he had done on the previous day. He only took some of it. On Friday, the 3rd May, he was down at the office, but he was never there after. There were a number of bottles at the office, having accumulated since I had been there. Before this time the general health of Mr. Maybrick had been good.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. Do you recollect his having been ill once at the office three or four years ago?

Mr. T. Lowry: Yes.

Sir Charles Russell: Except on that occasion, had anything occurred to attract attention in relation to his health?

Mr. T. Lowry: Not previous to the beginning of April.

Sir Charles Russell: In April you did not think he seemed very well?

Mr. T. Lowry: No, he looked pale.

Witness: Mrs. Eliza F. Busher

Mrs. E.F. Busher: Examined. I am a charwoman. I cleaned the offices of the late Mr. James Maybrick. On the morning of 2nd May I washed the pan and other vessels produced. On the following morning I saw the vessels had been used again, and that particles of food were left adhering to them, some white and some black. I cleaned the vessels, and put them on the mantelpiece. There were not many old medicine bottles in the office.

Sir Charles Russell: Cross-examining. Did you see the food?

Mrs. E.F. Busher: Yes; the dark food was like beef tea, but I do not know what the white food was made of.

Sir Charles Russell: Did you see what was in the cupboard?

Mrs. E.F. Busher: No, sir.