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Sir Charles Warren

Casebook Message Boards: Police Officials: General Discussion: Sir Charles Warren
Author: Christopher T George
Sunday, 05 May 2002 - 02:24 pm
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Hi, all:

Sir Charles Warren is usually excoriated for his conduct of the Ripper investigation. However, the man was a career soldier, and rather than the Ripper investigation, his worst moment probably came at the Spion Kop, a hill in South Africa, which was the location of a battle on January 24-25, 1900 during the Boer War. There General Sir Charles Warren suffered what was probably his biggest defeat as a soldier. One of the above links, an Aussie site, gives a couple of views of Spion Kop, and another Boer War site gives more detail on the engagement. I think the Lt. Col. Thorneycroft mentioned in connection with Spion Kop is probably of the same family as the Thorneycroft who made the torpedoes. You will recall that the body of Montague John Druitt was found floating in the Thames off Thorneycroft's Torpedo Factory in Chiswick at the end of 1888.

All the best

Chris George

Author: Jon
Sunday, 05 May 2002 - 06:10 pm
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Not only.....but also.....
I wonder if anyone is interested in Warrens Shaft, ie; David's attack on Jerusalem.
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~reli205/scarlett_warren/
Regards, Jon

Author: David O'Flaherty
Sunday, 05 May 2002 - 06:31 pm
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Thanks, Jon. I saw a program about this not long ago, but had forgotten what Warren had to do with it and it was driving me batty ever since Chris started this thread!

Boer War, the Ripper, and archaeology in Jerusalem. . .Sir Charles certainly had a full career, didn't he?

All in all, I think Charles Warren has received a raw deal from the press and history.

David

Author: Jim Leen
Monday, 06 May 2002 - 06:50 am
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Hello Everybody,

Sir Charles certainly had a varied and interesting career. But was the appointment of a soldier as top copper to the metropolis a correct choice? Does it, perhaps, signify anything concerning the social fabric of the times?

Surely there must have been viable candidates, career policemen no less, working towards internal promotion.

Thanking you and really not angling towards a conspiracy theory.
Jim Leen


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