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Other Suspects

Casebook Message Boards: Ripper Suspects: Ripper Suspects: Other Suspects
Author: Robeer
Sunday, 07 July 2002 - 03:58 am
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This thread is for discussion of a number of miscellaneous suspects that are mentioned by various press reports. As Donald Rumbelow aptly observed it is entirely possible none of the traditional suspects may prove to be JtR and when someday the murderer's ID is finally revealed ripperologists will collectively say, "Who?!"

And it is true that in the more famous serial murder cases the police actually had detained the murderer for questioning during the investigation but failed to follow up making an arrest until much later. Keeping these two thoughts in mind I thought it might be worthwhile to assemble a list of 'other suspects' .
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Times (London)
Monday, 10 September 1888

Soon after the murder was discovered, a woman of the same class reported to the police that a man had accosted her in thestreets of Spitalfields at an early hour that morning, but that she tried to avoid him. Thereupon he began to knock her about; she screamed, and he ran off. He gave her two brass medals for half sovereigns. She was asked to describe the man, but her description of him was not considered clear. Still the police determined to follow up the matter, more particularly because the woman states that the man seemed ready to kill her. The woman's description did not answer the description of a man for whom they have been searching in connexion with the murder of Mary Ann Nichols - a man known as "Leather Apron" - and they incline to the opinion that, after the hue and cry raised about him during the past few days, he would not have ventured into the neighbourhood of Spitalfields, where he is so well known.
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Times (London)
Monday, 10 September 1888

A young woman named Lyons stated that at 3 o'clock yesterday afternoon she met a strange man in Flower and Dean-street. He asked her to come to the Queen's Head publichouse at half-past 6 and drink with him. Having obtained from her a promise that she would do so he disappeared, and was at the house named at the appointed time. While they were conversing Lyons noticed a large knife in the man's right-hand trousers pocket, and called another woman's attention to the fact. A moment later Lyons was startled by a remark which the stranger addressed to her. "You are about the same style of woman as the one that's murdered," he said. "What do you know about her?" asked the woman, to which the man replied, "You are beginning to smell a rat. Foxes hunt geese, but they don't always find 'em." Having uttered these words the man hurriedly left. Lyons followed until near Spitalfields Church, when, turning round at this spot and noticing that the woman was behind him, the stranger ran at a swifter pace into Church-street and was at once lost to view. One noteworthy fact in this story is that the description of the man's appearance is in all material points identical with the published descriptions of the unknown, and up to the present untracked, " Leather Apron."
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Times (London)
Monday, 10 September 1888

On Saturday evening a somewhat suspicious incident occurred at Deptford. About 7 o'clock a man in a hurried manner entered the shop of a newsagent in Grove-street, near the entrance to the Foreign Cattle Market, and in an excited tone asked for a copy of the special Star containing an account of the Whitechapel murder. The newsagent replied that he had not one left. The man then asked for a special Evening News, and received the same reply. "Then," said the man, "let me have a special anything." The newsagent was at the time reading the special Standard, and told him he could have that if he liked. The man snatched the open paper from his hand, threw a penny down upon the counter, rushed out of the shop, and, by the light of the gas in the shop window, appeared to eagerly and excitedly read the account of the tragedy. Indeed, his manner and appearance were so remarkable, that the newsagent suspected that he might be in some way connected with the murder, and leaving the shop, told a boy who was passing to hurry away for a policeman and bring one back to the shop immediately. The boy started off, and the newsagent returned to his shop, and on doing so was observed by the man, who appeared to become alarmed at the circumstance, for he crushed up the newspaper in his hand, started across the road, ran down Emily-place, and disappeared. The newsagent is of opinion that he probably ran that way towards a car on the Deptford and Southwark Tramway which runs to Tooley-street, and would take him out of the neighbourhood in a few minutes. The man wore an old felt hat pulled well forward over his eyes, and his coat collar being up, the impression of the newsagent is that he was endeavouring to conceal his features. He was of stout build, full-chested, rather ruddy complexion, slight moustache, a beard scrubby or of several days' growth, and looked, to use the newsagent's words, "as if a little soap would have done him good." He was wearing an old brown overcoat, well worn and greasy at the pockets. He stood about two minutes outside the shop reading the paper, and was watched by the newsagent through the window. A constable afterwards came to the shop and took down in writing the statement of the newsagent.

A man was arrested at Deptford yesterday afternoon on suspicion of being connected with the East-end tragedy, but there is reason to believe that he will be able to establish his innocence and will soon be released.

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Times (London)
September 11, 1888
"The Whitechapel Murders"

Two arrests were made yesterday, but it is very doubtful whether the murderer is in the hands of the police. The members of the Criminal Investigation Department are assisting the divisional police at the East-end in their endeavours to elucidate the mystery in which these crimes are involved.
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Times (London)
Wednesday, 12 September 1888

Mrs. Fiddyman, the landlady of the house into which it was stated a blood-stained and wild-looking man entered shortly after the hour at which the murder was probably committed on Saturday morning, has been taken to Leman-street Station, and on seeing Pizer she expressed herself as quite certain that he was not the man who came into her house on the occasion spoken of.
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Times (London)
Friday, 14 September 1888

The man arrested at Holloway has for some reason been removed to the asylum at Bow. His own friends give him an indifferent character. He has been missing from home for nearly two months, and it is known that he has been in the habit of carrying several large butcher's knives about his person. Inquiries are now being made with a view to tracing his movements during the past two months.
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Times (London)
September 15, 1888
THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.

The police at the Commercial-street station have made another arrest on suspicion in connection with the recent murders. It appears that among the numerous statements and descriptions of suspected persons are several tallying with that of the man in custody, but beyond this the police know nothing at present against him. His apprehension was of a singular character. Throughout yesterday his movements are stated to have created suspicion among various persons, and last night he was handed over to a uniform constable doing duty in the neighbourhood of Flower and Dean-street on suspicion in connection with the crime. On his arrival at the police station in Commercial-street the detective officers and Mr. Abberline were communicated with, and an inquiry concerning him was at once opened. On being searched perhaps one of the most extraordinary accumulation of articles were discovered--a heap of rags, comprising pieces of dress fabrics, old and dirty linen, two purses of a kind usually used by women, two or three pocket handkerchiefs, one a comparatively clean white one, and a white one with a red spotted border; two small tin boxes, a small cardboard box, a small leather strap, which might serve the purpose of a garterstring, and one spring onion. The person to whom this curious assortment belongs is slightly built, about 5ft. 7in. or 5ft. 8in. in height, and dressed shabbily. He has a very careworn look. Covering a head of hair, inclined somewhat to be sandy, with beard and moustache to match, was a cloth skull cap, which did not improve his appearance. Suspicion is the sole motive for his temporary detention, for the police, although making every possible inquiry about him, do not believe his appehension to be of any importance.

Regarding the man Pigott, who was captured at Gravesend, nothing whatever has been discovered by the detectives in the course of their inquiries which can in any way connect him with the crimes, and his release, at all events, from the custody of the police is expected shortly.
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Times (London)
September 16, 1888

Thomas Ede, a signalman in the employ of the East London Railway Company, said he saw a man on the line on the morning of the 8th.
The CORONER observed that had no reference to this inquiry. The 8th was the morning of the other murder. It was decided to take the witness's evidence.

Witness, continuing, said on Saturday morning, the 8th inst., he was coming down the Cambridge-heath-road, and when just opposite the Foresters' Arms saw a man on the opposite side of the street. His peculiar appearance made witness look at him. He appeared to have a wooden arm, as it was hanging at his side. Witness watched him until he got level with the Foresters' Arms. He then put his hand down, and witness saw about 4 in. of the blade of a long knife sticking out of his trousers pocket. Three other men were also looking at him and witness spoke to them. Witness followed him, and as soon as he saw he was followed he quickened his pace. Witness lost sight of him under some railway arches. He was about 5ft. 8 in. high, about 35 years of age, with dark moustache and whiskers. He wore a double peak cap, dark brown jacket, and a pair of overalls over a pair of dark trousers. He walked as though he had a stiff knee, and he had a fearful look about the eyes.
By the CORONER. - Witness should say the man was a mechanic. The overalls were perfectly clean. He could not see what kind of a knife it was. He was not a muscular man.
Inspector Helson said they had been unable to trace the man.
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Times (London)
Wednesday, 19 September 1888

THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.

Several reports were current in London yesterday as to discoveries by the police in connexion with the Hanbury-street murder; but the value of the clues said to have been obtained is extremely doubtful. One statement is to the effect that on the day of the murder a man changed his clothes in the lavatory of the City News Rooms, Ludgate-circus, and left hurriedly, leaving behind him a shirt, a pair of trousers, and a pair of socks. The attendant threw the discarded clothes into the dustbin, and they were carted off in the City Sewers cart on the following Monday. The police are said to be endeavouring to trace these clothes, but decline to give information on the subject. It is obviously difficult to conceive why the murderer, having possessed himself of a change of clothes, should pass from Whitechapel to Ludgate-circus and change his dress in a quasi-public place such as the City News Rooms. The police, however, will thoroughly sift the matter.

Charles Ludwig, the German charged yesterday at the Thames Police-court with being drunk and threatening to stab, was at once connected by popular imagination with the murder. Our police report will show that some of the circumstances of the case seem to support such an hypothesis. The youth who was threatened early yesterday morning stated to a correspondent that the first he saw of Ludwig, as he calls him, was about a quarter to 4 o'clock. The prisoner was then at the top of Commercial-street, in company with a woman, whom he was conducting in the direction of the Minories. "I took no notice of this at the time," added the witness, "except to make a remark to a coffee-stall keeper. In about a quarter of an hour the woman ran back in a state of fright, as it seemed. At any rate she was screaming and exclaiming, ' You can't do that to me.' Again I thought little of it, as I only fancied she had had some drink, but within five minutes the prisoner came up and asked for a cup of coffee at the stall where I was standing. He, at all events, was drunk, and would only produce a halfpenny in payment for the coffee which was given him. I suppose he noticed me looking at him, for he suddenly turned round and asked in broken English, ' What you looking at?' I replied that I was doing no harm, but he said, 'Oh, you want something,' and pulled out a long penknife, with which he made a dash at me. I eluded him and snatched from the stall a dish, which I prepared to throw at his head, but as he retreated after making the first dash I only called to a policeman who was near by and had him arrested. He is slightly built, and perhaps about 5ft. 6in. in height, dark complexioned, and wearing a grizzled beard and moustache. I should think he is about 40 years of age. There is something the matter with one of his legs, and he walks stiffly. I heard that at the police-court this morning he pretended not to understand English, but his English when he addressed me was plain enough, though broken; and besides, when the officer who had him in charge told me on the way to Leman-street to see that he did not throw anything away, he at once dropped the penknife - which had till then been in his possession - as if the idea of getting rid of it had only just occurred to him. I have never seen him before. " Ludwig entered the employment of Mr. C. A. Partridge, hairdresser, the Minories, a fortnight ago last Saturday. On Monday night last he went to an hotel in Finsbury, where he had previously lodged, and remained there until about 1 o'clock in the morning. He produced a number of razors, and acted in such a manner that some of the inmates were quite frightened. The landlady of this hotel states that on the day after the last murder in Whitechapel Ludwig called early in the morning and washed his hands, stating that he had been injured. Another person has alleged that there was blood on the man's hands, but as to this the landlady cannot speak.
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Times (London)
Monday, 24 September 1888

THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.

On Saturday, Mr. Wynne E. Baxter, coroner for the South-Eastern division of Middlesex, resumed his adjourned inquiry at the Working Lads' Institute, Whitechapel-road, respecting the death of Mary Ann Nichols, who was found brutally murdered in Buck's-row, Whitechapel.

William Eade, recalled, stated he had since seen the man whom he saw with the knife near the Foresters'-hall. He had ascertained that his name was Henry James, and that he did not possess a wooden arm.

The CORONER said the man James had been seen, and been proved to be a well-known harmless lunatic.
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Times (London)
Friday, 28 September 1888

THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.

A man, giving the name of John Fitzgerald, gave himself up at Wandsworth Police-station on Wednesday night and made a statement to the inspector on duty to the effect that he committed the murder in Hanbury-street. He was conveyed to Leman-street Police station, where he is now detained. The officers engaged in the case were yesterday tracing his movements about the time of the murder, but their inquiries are not yet complete. It is believed that the man had been drinking to excess for some days past.
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Times (London)
Monday, 1 October 1888

A man named Albert Barkert [Bachert] has made the following statement: - ''I was in the Three Nuns Hotel, Aldgate, on Saturday night, when a man got into conversation with me. He asked me questions which now appear to me to have some bearing upon the recent murders. He wanted to know whether I knew what sort of loose women used the public bar at that house, when they usually left the street outside, and where they were in the habit of going. He asked further questions, and from his manner seemed to be up to no good purpose. He appeared to be a shabby genteel sort of man, and was dressed in black clothes. He wore a black felt hat and carried a black bag. We came out together at closing time (12 o'clock), and I left him outside Aldgate Railway Station.

Times (London)
Tuesaday, 2 October 1888

Albert Backert, of 13, Newnham-street, Whitechapel, made a further statement yesterday in amplification of that which has already been published. He said: - On Saturday night, at about seven minutes to 12, I entered the Three Nuns Hotel, Aldgate. While in there an elderly woman, very shabbily dressed, came in and asked me to buy some matches. I refused and she went out. A man who had been standing by me remarked that those persons were a nuisance, to which I responded "Yes." He then asked me if I knew how old some of the women were who were in the habit of soliciting outside. I replied that I knew, or thought, that some of them who looked about 25 were over 35. He then asked me whether I thought a woman would go with him down Northumberland-alley - a dark and lonely court in Fenchurch-street. I said I did not know, but supposed she would. He then went outside and spoke to the woman who was selling matches and gave her something. He returned, and I bid him good-night at about ten minutes past 12. I believe the woman was waiting for him. I do not think I could identify the woman, as I did not take particular notice of her; but I should know the man again. He was a dark man, about 38 years of age, about 5ft. 6in. or 5ft. 7in. He wore a black felt hat, a dark morning coat, a black tie, and a carried a black shiny bag.
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Times (London)
Monday, 1 October 1888

Last night, shortly before midnight, a man, whose name has not yet transpired, was arrested in the Borough on suspicion of being the perpetrator of the murders in the East-end. Yesterday morning a tall dark man wearing an American hat entered a lodging-house in Union-street known as Albert-chambers. He stayed there throughout the day, and his peculiar manner drew upon him the attention of his fellow lodgers. Certain observations which he made regarding the topic of the day aroused their suspicions. He attracted the notice of the deputy keeper of the lodging-house, whose suspicions became so strong that he sent for a policeman. On the arrival of the officer the stranger was questioned as to his recent wanderings, but he could give no intelligible account of them, though he said he had spent the previous night on Blackfriars-bridge. He was conveyed to Stones-end Police-station, Blackman-street, Borough.
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Times (London)
Thursday, 4 October 1888

An American, who refuses to give his name or any account of himself, was arrested last night on suspicion of being the East-end murderer. He is well dressed, rather tall, of slight build, and clean shaven. He accosted a woman in Cable-street, asked for her to go with him, and threatened that if she refused he would "rip her up." The woman screamed, and the man rushed to a cab. The police gave chase, got upon the cab, seized the man, and took him to Leman-street Police-station, where he asked the inspector in charge, "Are you the boss?" The man is detained at the police-station as well as two others who were conveyed there during the evening.
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The Toronto Daily News (Canada)
Thursday, 4 October 1888

WHITECHAPEL MURDERS

LONDON Oct. 3--
There is now in the London Hospital, with a serious cut on her arm, a woman who has solemnly declared she received the injury while protecting her throat form an attempt made to cut it by a man who, having engaged her in conversation and struck an immoral bargain with her, tripped her up, then threw her heavily on the pavement, and attacked her, knife in hand, with murderous intent.
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Author: Martin Fido
Sunday, 07 July 2002 - 05:55 am
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Robeer,
Your Holloway man is Jacob Issenschmidt; details to be found in many Ripper books.
Bachert's Three Nuns man seems more likely to have been a naive punter on the prowl than the Ripper.
All the best,
Martin F

Author: Brenda L. Conklin
Sunday, 07 July 2002 - 10:02 am
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I wonder how the police went about eliminating suspects? Was it simply a matter of the suspect accounting for his time at the time of the murders? It seems like it would be easy to lie, especially if the police weren't following up like they should. But I am not doubting the police, I am sure they did everything possible and did their jobs correctly. It just seems like they were able to eliminate suspects very quickly.
I have been intriqued by the several reports (two listed here) describing a man with a bad knee, who "walked stiffly"....there are at least 3 descriptions and I feel these descriptions are the same person, though not necessarily the Ripper.
Also it seems that cutting a woman's throat was quite the favorite pastime in the East End. There are numerous incidents of this happening in reports that aren't even related to JTR.

Author: Robeer
Monday, 08 July 2002 - 08:59 am
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Brenda,

You ask a very good question. It appears there was no standard procedure in place on how to question and verify witnesses or suspects. So apparently it was left up to each policeman to deal with suspects/witnesses in their own way. Chances are JtR was stopped and questioned by police but each officer may have had a preconceived image in his head about what JtR was supposed to look like and if the real JtR looked harmless he was of course, turned loose without a further thought.

The published description of the suspect may have made matters worse. The first description we find the police using is the earlier of two descriptions of suspects seen with Annie Chapman. Why the earlier of the two? We don't know, but if this description is not JtR then it further complicated the job of catching him. There is an incident where a PC failed to respond to a situation based on the fact the man in question did not fit the description provided by headquarters.

In fact, the suspect you mention with the stiff leg is a good example. He is deemed 'harmless' and that is the end of the investigation. The Victorian police were simply not sophisticated enough to deal with a serial killer. Evidently nor was the modern Yorkshire PD either. They stopped and questioned the Yorkshire Ripper 3 times and let him go. In one instance the murder weapon was laying on the car seat in plain sight.

And if you think that is incompetance then consider this. One of the victims who survived an assault by the Zodiac killer was shown a picture of one of the suspects several years later and immediately identified the man as the assailant. When asked why he waited so long to make this identification he responded this was the first time any police officer ever showed him the picture. Now that's incompetence that leaves us speechless.

Robeer

Author: Robeer
Monday, 08 July 2002 - 11:40 am
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Here is a summary of 20 other suspects mentioned in press reports.

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Mon 10 Sep 88

1. Spitalfields suspect.
Witness: unnamed woman. Location: streets of Spitalfields. Time: morning.

Description: “The woman's description did not answer the description of a man for whom they have been searching in connexion with the murder of Mary Ann Nichols - a man known as "Leather Apron"......”
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Mon 10 Sep 88

2. Lyons suspect.
Witness: young woman named Lyons. Location: Queen’s Head Pub/ Flower & Dean-street. Time: 3:00 PM.

Description: “One noteworthy fact in this story is that the description of the man's appearance is in all material points identical with the published descriptions of the unknown, and up to the present untracked, " Leather Apron."
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Mon 10 Sep 88

3. Deptford suspect #1.
Witness: newsagent. Location: Grove-street. Time: 7:00 PM.

Description: “The man wore an old felt hat pulled well forward over his eyes, and his coat collar being up, the impression of the newsagent is that he was endeavouring to conceal his features. He was of stout build, full-chested, rather ruddy complexion, slight moustache, a beard scrubby or of several days' growth, and looked, to use the newsagent's words, "as if a little soap would have done him good." He was wearing an old brown overcoat, well worn and greasy at the pockets.”
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Mon 10 Sep 88

4. Deptford suspect #2.
Witness: unknown. Location: unknown. Time: unknown.

Description: unknown. *Arrested by poclice the day before.
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Tue 11 Sep 88

5./6. Two witnesses arrested.
*The report from The Times is somewhat confusing. The two suspects could be Pizer and one other unnamed suspect plus the transfer of Pigott, or the reference is to Pizer and Pigott. Pizer is a well known suspect so will not be counted on this list.

5. Unknown suspect. Witness: unknown. Location: unknown. Time: unknown.

Description: none.

6. William Henry Pigott. Witness: unknown. Location: Brick-lane, Whitechapel. Time: at half-past 4 on Saturday morning he saw a woman fall in a fit.

Description: "He wore no vest, had on a battered felt hat, and appeared to be in a state of high nervous excitement........He gave his age as 52, and stated he was a native of Gravesend,....."

*Pigott "was taken into custody on Sunday night at the Pope's Head publichouse, Gravesend. Attention was first attracted to Pigott because he had some bloodstains on his clothes. Superintendent Berry, the chief of the local police, was communicated with, and a sergeant was sent to the Pope's Head to investigate the case."
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Wed 12 Sep 88

7. Fiddyman suspect.
Witness: Mrs. Fiddyman. Location: Prince Albert publichouse. Time: “entered shortly after the hour at which the murder was probably committed on Saturday morning”.

Description: “a blood-stained and wild-looking man”.

*Mrs. Fiddyman was taken to Leman-street station to see suspect Pizer but said it was not the same man.
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Fri 14 Sep 88

8. Holloway suspect: Jacob Issenschmidt.
Witness: unknown. Location: Holloway.
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Sat 15 Sep 88

9. Flower & Dean-street suspect.
Witness: unknown. Location: arrested Flower & Dean-street. Time: Friday night.

Description: “It appears that among the numerous statements and descriptions of suspected persons are several tallying with that of the man in custody......The person to whom this curious assortment belongs is slightly built, about 5ft. 7in. or 5ft. 8in. in height, and dressed shabbily. He has a very careworn look. Covering a head of hair, inclined somewhat to be sandy, with beard and moustache to match, was a cloth skull cap, which did not improve his appearance.”
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Sun 16 Sep 88

10. Henry James.
Witness: Thomas Ede. Location: “coming down the Cambridge-heath-road, and when just opposite the Foresters' Arms saw a man on the opposite side of the street.” Time: “on the morning of the 8th”.

Description: “His peculiar appearance made witness look at him. He appeared to have a wooden arm, as it was hanging at his side.........He then put his hand down, and witness saw about 4 in. of the blade of a long knife sticking out of his trousers pocket........He was about 5ft. 8 in. high, about 35 years of age, with dark moustache and whiskers. He wore a double peak cap, dark brown jacket, and a pair of overalls over a pair of dark trousers. He walked as though he had a stiff knee, and he had a fearful look about the eyes.” Weapon: “witness saw about 4 in. of the blade of a long knife sticking out of his trousers pocket.”
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24 Sep 88

William Eade, recalled, stated he had since seen the man whom he saw with the knife near the Foresters'-hall. He had ascertained that his name was Henry James, and that he did not possess a wooden arm.

The CORONER said the man James had been seen, and been proved to be a well-known harmless lunatic.
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Wed 19 Sep 88

11. City News Rooms, Ludgate-circus susepct.
Witness: unknown. Location: City News Rooms, Ludgate-circus. Time: sometime the day before.

Description: none.
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Wed 19 Sep 88

12. Charles Ludwig.
Witness: a youth. Location: at the top of Commercial-street, in company with a woman, whom he was conducting in the direction of the Minories. Time: “early yesterday morning......was about a quarter to 4 o'clock.”

Description: “He is slightly built, and perhaps about 5ft. 6in. in height, dark complexioned, and wearing a grizzled beard and moustache. I should think he is about 40 years of age. There is something the matter with one of his legs, and he walks stiffly. I heard that at the police-court this morning he pretended not to understand English, but his English when he addressed me was plain enough, though broken;” Weapon: pen knife, razors.
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Fri 28 Sep 88

13. John Fitzgerald.
Witness: none. Location: Wandsworth Police-station. Time: “on Wednesday night”.

Description: none.
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30 Sep 88

14./15. PC Halse suspects.
Witness: PC Halse. Location: Wentworth-street. Time: 2:00 AM.

Description: none.

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Mon 1 Oct 88

16. Albert Backert suspect.
Witness: Albert Backert. Location: Three Nuns Hotel, Aldgate. Time: “On Saturday night, at about seven minutes to 12, I entered the Three Nuns Hotel, Aldgate.......We came out together at closing time (12 o'clock), and I left him outside Aldgate Railway Station.”

Description: “He appeared to be a shabby genteel sort of man, and was dressed in black clothes. He wore a black felt hat and carried a black bag.......He was a dark man, about 38 years of age, about 5ft. 6in. or 5ft. 7in. He wore a black felt hat, a dark morning coat, a black tie, and a carried a black shiny bag.”
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Mon 1 Oct 88

17. Borough suspect.
Witness: the deputy keeper of the lodging-house. Location: a lodging-house in Union-street known as Albert-chambers. Time: “Last night, shortly before midnight”.

Description: “a tall dark man wearing an American hat”. *He was conveyed to Stones-end Police-station, Blackman-street, Borough.
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Thur, 4 Oct 88

18. Cable-street suspect.
Witness: a woman in Cable-street. Time: unknown.

Description: “An American, who refuses to give his name or any account of himself, was arrested last night on suspicion of being the East-end murderer. He is well dressed, rather tall, of slight build, and clean shaven.”
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Thur 4 Oct 88

19. London Hospital suspect.
Witness: woman victim. Location: unknown. Time: unknown.

Description: none.

*Witness was attacked when the man “tripped her up, then threw her heavily on the pavement, and attacked her, knife in hand, with murderous intent.”
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Date unknown

20. PC Spicer suspect.
Witness: PC Spicer. Location: “On this particular night I had walked my beat backwards and had come to Henage-street, off Brick Lane. About fifty yards on Henage-street is Henage-court. At the bottom of the court was a brick-built dustbin. Both Jack and a woman (Rosy) were sitting on this.” Time: unknown.

Description: “He was always dressed the same – high hat, black suit with silk facings and a gold watch and chain. He was about 5 feet 8 or 9 inches and about 12 stone, fair moustache, high forehead and rosy cheeks.”
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Robeer

Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 03:59 am
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Times (London)
Monday, 8 October 1888


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Alfred Napier Blanchard, who described himself as a canvasser, residing at Handsworth, was charged at Birmingham on Saturday, on his own confession, with having committed the Whitechapel atrocities. He had been arrested in consequence of a circumstantial statement which he made in a publichouse of the manner in which he had effected the murders. He now denied all knowledge of the matter, and said he had spoken under excitement, caused by reading about the murders, and heavy drinking. The Bench declined to release him, however, till to-day, in order to allow time for inquiries.

In reference to the great interest taken by Mr. Lusk in the welfare of the inhabitants of the district, there seems to be no doubt that he has been marked down, for on Saturday evening it became necessary to call in the police for the purpose of keeping a look-out for a mysterious stranger who has been prowling round his premises and his son's house with the object, it is believed, of striking through Mr. Lusk at the Vigilance Committee. After an interview with a constable and a detective-sergeant, the matter was deemed of sufficient importance to warrant the attendance of an inspector from Bethnal-green, and at 10:30 waited on Mr. Lusk and heard his statement on the matter. The description given of this man is as follows:- Height, 5ft. 9in., aged 38 to 40, full beard and moustache, matted and untrimmed, dent on the bridge of the nose, florid complexion, wide nostrils, eyes sunken, dressed in a rusty frock coat, white turn-down collar, black tie, no watchchain, deerstalker hat, and the left boot broken out on the left side; carried a brown stick with round top.

According to a Reuter telegram from New York, the New York Herald declares that the seaman named Dodge, who recently stated that a Malay, whom he met in London, threatened to murder a number of Whitechapel women for robbing him, said he knew the street where the Malay stayed, but that he would not divulge the name until he learnt what chance there was of a reward. He stated, however, that the street was not far from the East India Dock-road; but he was not certain about the house where the man lived. Another seaman said he thought the Malay was now on a vessel plying in the North Sea.




Times (London)
Friday, 12 October 1888


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An arrest was made yesterday at Eltham, near Hythe. The master of the workhouse had his suspicions excited over a casual who answered the description of the man wanted. He was dressed in genteel style, with black coat, trousers and hat. Blood was found on the trousers and shirt, the cuffs of which had been ripped off. He gave three or four different names and most contradictory statements as to where he came from. Superintendent Maxted took the matter in hand, but it is expected that as a result of the inquiries then made the man will be released.




Times (London)
Tuesday, 16 October 1888


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Superintendent Farmer, of the River Tyne Police, has received information which, it is considered, may form a clue to the East-end murders. An Austrian seaman signed articles on board a Faversham vessel in the Tyne on Saturday, and sailed for a French port. Afterwards it was found that his signature corresponded with the facsimile letters signed "Jack the Ripper," and that the description of the man also corresponded with that of the Whitechapel murdered circulated by the Metropolitan police.

A man, wearing a slouched hat, carrying a black leather bag, speaking with a slightly American accent, and presenting a travel-stained appearance, was arrested at Limavady, near Londonderry, yesterday morning by Constable Walsh, on suspicion of being the man who committed the recent murders in the East-end of London. The arrest was made as a result of the police description of the man wanted. The prisoner refused to give his name or any information whatever about himself. A woman and child who were with him were also taken into custody.


Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 06:16 am
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Times (London)
Thursday, 18 October 1888


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A large number of conflicting rumours in connexion with the murders in the East-end are spread abroad from day to day with reference to the movements of suspicious characters who are stated to be under the close supervision of the police. There is little, however, in all these stories which indicates that the police have succeeded to any appreciable extent in tracking the author of the crimes. The net result, indeed, seems to be that a really genuine clue has yet to be obtained. Some importance has been attached by the police to the arrest made at King-street Police-station on Tuesday morning. The man arrested entered the police-station about 9 o'clock and complained of having lost a black bag. While the officials were taking note of the case he began to talk about the women murdered in Whitechapel, and offered to cut off the sergeant's head, and spoke in a rambling, non-sensical manner. In answer to a question as to what his business was, he said he had studied some years for the medical profession, but gave it up for engineering, and that he had been staying for some nights in coffee-houses. His talk became of such a rambling character that Dr. Bond, the divisional surgeon, was sent for, who examined him, and pronounced him to be a very dangerous lunatic with a homicidal tendency. The man is described as resembling the description of the person last seen with the women at the East-end on different occasions. He was dressed in a serge suit, with a hard felt hat, and is of a very strong build. Although he gave his age as 67, he looks much younger. Before his removal to Bow-street photographs were taken of him. He was also asked to write his name, and it is stated the writing is somewhat similar to that of letters received by the police and others. The detectives have been tracing the man's antecedents and his recent movements. The latest inquires seem to show that there is no evidence forthcoming likely to connect him with these crimes. In July last the man was brought up at Lambeth Police-court on a charge of being abroad as a person of unsound mind, and the magistrate ordered his removal to Lambeth Infirmary. He subsequently left that institution, and since August 15 he has lodged at a coffee-house in the Westminster-bridge-road. The keeper of the house states that the man has slept there every night without exception up to Monday of the present week.


Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 06:24 am
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Times (London)
Friday, 19 October 1888

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Another arrest has just been made in Whitechapel by the police. The man arrested is about 35 years of age, and has recently been living in Whitechapel. He is somewhat confused in his statements respecting his whereabouts lately, and will be detained pending inquiries.



Times (London)
Saturday, 20 October 1888

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Intelligence was received by the detectives that yesterday afternoon in Islington a strange man was observed to write on a wall the words "I am Jack the Ripper." He was pursued for some distance, but got clear away.


Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 07:06 am
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Times (London)
Saturday, 10 November 1888

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A Mrs Paumier, a young woman who sells roasted chestnuts at the corner of Widegate-street, a narrow thoroughfare about two minutes' walk from the scene of the murder, told a reporter yesterday afternoon a story which appears to afford a clue to the murderer. She said that about 12 o'clock that morning a man dressed like a gentleman came up to her and said, "I suppose you have heard about the murder in Dorset-street?" She replied that she had, whereupon the man grinned and said, "I know more about it than you." He then stared into her face and went down Sandy's-row, another narrow thoroughfare which cuts across Widegate-street. Whence he had got some way off, however, he vanished. Mrs Paumier said the man had a black moustache, was about 5ft 6in, high, and wore a black silk hat, a black coat, and speckled trousers. He also carried a black shiny bag about a foot in depth and a foot and a half in length. Mrs Paumier stated further that the same man accosted three young women, whom she knew, on Thursday night, and they chaffed him and asked him what he had in the bag, and he replied, "Something that the ladies don't like." One of the three young women she named, Sarah Roney, a girl about 20 years of age, states that she was with two other girls on Thursday night in Brushfield-street which is near Dorset-street, when a man wearing a tall hat and a black coat, and carrying a black bag, came up to her and said, "Will you come with me?" She told him that she would not, and asked him what he had in the bag, and he said, "Something the ladies don't like." He then walked away.

A man's pilot coat has been found in the murdered woman's room, but whether it belonged to one of her paramours or to the murderer has not been ascertained. Late yesterday evening a man was arrested near Dorset-street on suspicion of being concerned in the murder. He was taken to Commercial-street police-station, followed by a howling mob, and is still detained there.

Another man, respectably dressed, wearing a slouch hat and carrying a black bag was arrested and taken to Leman-street station. The bag was examined, but its contents were perfectly harmless, and the man was at once released.



Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 07:21 am
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Week of Sun, 11 Nov thru Sat, 17 Nov 1888.

Times (London)
Monday, November 12, 1888

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THE WHITECHAPEL MURDER.

The two arrests made on Friday night in connexion with the recent murder in Dorset-street, Spitalfields, were found after a short investigation to have nothing to do with it, and consequently the unfortunate persons were liberated by the police, with many apologies for their temporary detention.

Great excitement was caused shortly before 10 o'clock last night by the arrest of a man with a blackened face who publicly proclaimed himself to be "Jack the Ripper." This was at the corner of Wentworth-street, Commercial-street, near the scene of the latest crime. Two young men, one a discharged soldier, immediately seized him, and the great crowd, which always on a Sunday night parades this neighbourhood, raise a cry of "Lynch him." Sticks were raised, the man was furiously attacked, and but for the timely arrival of the police he would have been seriously injured. The police took him to Leman-street station, when the prisoner proved to be a very remarkable person. He refused to give any name, but asserted that he was a doctor at St. George's Hospital. He is about 35 years of age, 5ft. 7in. in height, of dark complexion, with dark moustache, and was wearing spectacles. He wore no waistcoat, but had an ordinary jersey vest beneath his coat. In his pocket he had a double-peaked, light check cap, and at the time of his arrest was bareheaded. It took four constables and four other persons to take him to the station and protect him from the infuriated crowd. He is detained in custody, and it seems that the police attach importance to the arrest, as his appearance answers to the police description of the man who is wanted.

Shortly after 10 o'clock last night as a woman named Humphreys was passing George-yard, Whitechapel, she met in the darkness and almost on the identical spot where Martha Tabram was murdered, a powerful-looking man wearing large spectacles. Trembling with agitation she asked, "What do you want?" The man made no answer, but laughed and made a hasty retreat. The woman shouted "Murder" several times and soon alarmed the neighbours. Uniformed policemen and detectives ran to the yard from all directions. They entered a house into which the man had retreated, and he was apprehended. A crowd of people quickly collected, who exhibited an almost unanimous inclination to lynch the mysterious person, but the police were fortunately able to protect him. Being taken to Leman-street Police-station, he accounted for his presence in the yard by the fact that he was paying a visit to a friend who is an inhabitant of it. He referred the police to a well-known gentleman at the London Hospital, and in the result he was set at liberty.

Other men who were in custody yesterday on account of suspicious movements have been released, all of them having given satisfactory explanations.



Times (London)
Tuesday, 13 November 1888

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THE WHITECHAPEL MURDER.

During yesterday several arrests were made, but after a short examination in all cases the persons were set at liberty, as it was felt certain they had no connexion with the crime.



Times (London)
Wednesday, 14 November 1888

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THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.

In the Holborn casual ward yesterday the police arrested a man who gave the name of Thomas Murphy. He was taken to the police station at Frederick-street, King's-cross-road, where, on being searched, he was found to have in his possession a somewhat formidable looking knife with a blade about ten inches long. He was therefore detained in custody on suspicion, and the police proceeded to make inquiries into the truth of his statements. The task was rendered very difficult by the confused and contradictory accounts which Murphy gave of himself, and the man was still in custody at 6 o'clock yesterday evening. Murphy is about 5ft. 6in. in height, and has the general appearance of a sailor. His hair and complexion are fair. He is dressed in a blue jersey tucked underneath his trousers, and his coat and trousers are of a check pattern.


Another man was arrested late yesterday afternoon in the neighbourhood of Dorset-street, but was released on inquiries being satisfactorily answered.



Times (London)
Thursday, 15 November 1888

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THE WHITECHAPEL MURDER.

During yesterday several persons were detained by the police on suspicion of being concerned in the Dorset-street murder, but they were, after a short detention, allowed to go away. During the afternoon a City constable had an uncomfortable walk along the Commercial-road. The officer, who was in mufti, and was wearing a low broad-brim hat of rather singular appearance, was quietly walking along the road when suddenly some persons called out that he was "Jack the Ripper." Within a few seconds some hundreds of people surrounded the constable, who tried to evade them by increasing his pace, but the quicker he went the faster the mob followed, until he was hemmed in on all sides. The results might have been serious for him had not some constables of the H Division come up, and the man making known his identity to them was got away from the mob. One arrest caused more than usual excitement.

A man stared into the face of a woman in the Whitechapel-road, and she at once screamed out that he was "Jack the Ripper." The man was immediately surrounded by an excited and threatening crowd, from which he was rescued with some difficulty by the police. He was taken under a strong escort to the Commercial-street Police station, followed by an enormous mob of men and women, shouting and screaming at him in the most extraordinary manner. At the police-station the man proved to be a German, unable to speak a word of English. He explained through an interpreter that he arrived in London from Germany on Tuesday, and was to leave for America to-day, and confirmation of this statement having been obtained he was set at liberty.

An arrest was made in the Old Kent-road yesterday evening, but the man, whose movements excited suspicion, does not answer to the description of the person who is wanted. Attention was drawn to him by his leaving a shiny black bag at the Thomas a Becket publichouse. The police were communicated with, and on the bag's being examined it was found to contain a very sharp dagger, a clasp knife, two pairs of very long and vary curious looking scissors, and two preservers. Meanwhile the man had gone to a pawnbroker's, and on emerging from the shop was taken into custody in order that inquiries might be made.



Times (London)
Saturday, 17 November 1888

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POLICE.

John M'Carthy, 28, was charged with being concerned in assaulting and robbing Michael Hadsburgh, of 3, Well-street, Whitechapel. Prosecutor said on Thursday evening he went into a publichouse and had some drink, when he saw the prisoner, who said to him "Are you 'Jack the Ripper?'" He replied he was. Witness had some more drink, when prisoner suddenly caught hold of him and held him. Four or five other men then commenced knocking him about, and robbed him of 5s. which he had in his trousers pocket. All the men ran away and witness called for the police. The men were taking him to the police-station when they robbed him and they then ran away. Constable 484 H said while in Leman-street he heard cries of "Police". He saw a crowd running. Prosecutor complained of being robbed and kicked by five men. Soon afterwards he gave prisoner into custody for robbing him. Prisoner said prosecutor came into the house and said something about "Jack the Ripper". I said "I believe he is 'Jack the Ripper', and am a good mind to give him into custody." I then caught hold of him to give him into custody, as he was such a suspicious looking man, when he called out "police." Prosecutor recalled, said when prisoner asked him if he was "Jack the Ripper," he also looked round him and said "Have you got any revolver?" Prisoner denied assaulting and robbing prosecutor and called a witness. The latter, a man named Murphy, said prosecutor was dancing about in the house, saying he was "Jack the Ripper." He also commenced writing and had a lot of Yankee notions about him, and that caused a crowd to get round him. Prisoner did not take hold of prosecutor. Mr. Lushington committed the prisoner for trial.


Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 11:52 am
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Times (London)
Monday, 19 November 1888

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THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.

On Saturday afternoon the police arrested at Euston Station a man who had just arrived from Birmingham, and who described himself as a doctor. Upon being questioned the suspect made certain statements as to his whereabouts at the times of the murders which the police are now investigating. The man was subsequently released.

At WORSHIP-STREET, shortly before Mr. Bushby left the bench at the close of the day's business, a Swede named NIKANER A. BENELIUS, 27 years of age, and described as a traveller, living in Great Eastern-street, Shoreditch, was placed in the dock charged with entering a dwelling-house in Buxton-street, Mile-end, for an unlawful purpose and with refusing to give any account of himself. The prisoner is a man of decidedly foreign appearance, with a moustache, but otherwise cannot be said to resemble any of the published descriptions of men suspected in connexion with the Whitechapel murders. Detective-sergeant Dew attended from Commercial-street Station, and stated that the prisoner had been arrested that morning under circumstances which made it desirable to have the fullest inquiries made as to him. Before the last murder - of Mary Kelly, in Miller's-court - the prisoner had been arrested by the police and detained in connexion with the Berner-street murder, but was eventually released. He had, however, remained about the neighbourhood, lodging in a German lodging-house, but having, the officer said, no apparent means of subsistence...................Two men, one of whom was stated to be the prisoner's landlord, subsequently called about him and said that he had been preaching in the streets at times and acting of late very strangely.



Times (London)
Thursday, 22 November 1888

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MURDEROUS OUTRAGE in WHITECHAPEL.

Considerable excitement was caused throughout the East-end yesterday morning by a report that another woman had been brutally murdered and mutilated in a common lodging-house in George-street, Spitalfields, and in consequence of the reticence of the police authorities all sorts of rumours prevailed. Although it was soon ascertained that there had been no murder, it was said that an attempt had been made to murder a woman, of the class to which the other unfortunate creatures belonged, by cutting her throat, and the excitement in the neighbourhood for some time was intense. Whether the woman's assailant is the man wanted for the seven recent murders committed in the district of Whitechapel is, of course, not known, although his description tallies somewhat with that given by one of the witnesses at the last inquest; but, should he be, the police are sanguine of his speedy capture, as a good and accurate description of him is now obtained, and if arrested he could be identified by more than one person. The victim of this last occurrence, fortunately, is but slightly injured, and was at once able to furnish the detectives with a full description of her assailant. Her name is Annie Farmer, and she is a woman about 40 years of age, who lately resided with her husband, a tradesman, in Featherstone-street, City-road, but, on account of her dissolute habits, was separated from him. On Monday night the woman had no money, and, being unable to obtain any, walked the streets until about half-past 7 yesterday morning. At that time she got into conversation, in Commercial-street, with a man, whom she describes as about 36 years of age, about 5ft. 6in. in height, with a dark moustache, and wearing a shabby black diagonal suit and hard felt hat. He treated her to several drinks until she became partially intoxicated. At his suggestion they went to the common lodging-house, 19, George-street, and paid the deputy 8d. for a bed. That was about 8 o'clock, and nothing was heard to cause alarm or suspicion until half-past 9, when screams were heard proceeding from the room occupied by the man and Farmer. Some men who were in the kitchen of the house at the time rushed upstairs and met the woman coming down. She was partially undressed, and was bleeding profusely from a wound in the throat. She was asked what was the matter, and simply said "He's done it," at the same time pointing to the door leading into the street.


Author: Robeer
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 02:11 pm
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Times (London)
Monday, 24 December 1888

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THE POPLAR MURDER.

The mystery surrounding the murder at Poplar has in no way diminished, and the excitement in the neighbourhood has become intense. Up to a late hour last night the police had made no arrests. Only two persons have been able to throw any light on the identity of the unfortunate woman, and one of these is a young woman named Graves, resident in Whitechapel. She called on the coroner's officer, Mr. Chivers, who resides in High-street, Poplar, on Saturday night and made the following statement:-

"My name is Alice Graves. I live at 18, George-street, Spitalfields. I am an unfortunate, and I identify the body as that of another unfortunate whom I had known for some time past and was intimate with. I knew her by the name of 'Lizzie.' I last saw her alive on Thursday morning at 2:30. She was standing outside the George, Commercial-road, and was in the company of two men. She was then the worse for drink. I passed her and went home."

*Mrs. Margaret Millett, widow, of 16, Pelham-street, Whitechapel, stated that deceased was her daughter and was 26 years of age. Her name was Catherine Millett.

THE POPLAR MURDER.

*Yesterday Mr. Wynne E. Baxter, the Coroner for the South-Eastern division of Middlesex, resumed his adjourned inquiry at the Town-hall, Poplar, respecting the death of ROSE MILLETT [Mylett], aged 26, who was found lying dead in Clarke's-yard, High Street, Poplar, on the early morning of December 20 last.


Author: Tom Wescott
Tuesday, 09 July 2002 - 10:52 pm
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Robeer,

You've done an excellent job in compiling this list of little-discussed contemporary suspects and descriptions. Just a couple of minor corrections, though: Halse was a Detective Constable with the City Police, so his title should be 'DC Halse' and not 'PC Halse', and 'Mrs. Fiddyman' should read 'Mrs. Fiddymont'. The papers made an error as to her name.

Keep up the great work! This thread will no doubt be of great interest and use to people for a long time to come.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Author: graziano
Wednesday, 10 July 2002 - 01:12 am
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Errata

Author: Warwick Parminter
Saturday, 03 August 2002 - 07:02 am
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Ally,
I would like to say I think this is a very interesting board and thread, I hope you are going to keep it,it would be very useful thanks to Robeer and others, I hope you are not aiming to delete eventually
sincerly Rick

Author: Esther Wilson
Thursday, 26 September 2002 - 10:05 am
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I've just re-watched the JTR movie with Michael Cain and I would like to know more info about Robert James Lees and Richard Mansfield. I'm not saying that I think they had anything to do with the murders but I would like to learn more about them none the less. Any websites etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. :)

Esther

Author: alex chisholm
Thursday, 26 September 2002 - 11:26 am
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Hi Esther

I can’t help with regard to Lees, but a brief account of Mansfield’s career can be found at http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/whowaswho/M/MansfieldRichard.htm

The two most comprehensive biographies are “Richard Mansfield: The Man and the Actor” by Paul Wilstach (New York, Scribner’s, 1908), and “The Life and Art of Richard Mansfield” by William Winter (New York, Moffit, Yard & Co., 1910).

And, if you can wait until next year, McFarland & Co. will be publishing a study of Richard Mansfield and his stage production of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, by Professor Martin Danahay and yours truly. – Shameless plug there.

Best Wishes
alex

Author: David O'Flaherty
Thursday, 26 September 2002 - 11:31 am
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Alex, please let us know when your book about the Jekyll & Hyde production is released--it's a subject I'd enjoy reading about.

Thanks,
Dave

Author: David Radka
Thursday, 26 September 2002 - 12:46 pm
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Alex,
I am interrested in obtaining a script of the play as it was performed in London. Will you include it in your book? Best of luck with it.

David

Author: Jack Traisson
Thursday, 26 September 2002 - 03:32 pm
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Hi Esther,

Here is an informative site on Robert James Lees:
http://www.rjlees.co.uk/main.html

Alex,

Excellent news; congratulations! I look forward to reading you and Professor Danahay's study of Mansfield's Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.

Cheers,
John

Author: alex chisholm
Thursday, 26 September 2002 - 07:48 pm
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Dear Dave, David, and John

Thank you all for your encouragement.

To answer a couple of questions: -

Martin and I are contracted to have a finished manuscript with McFarland by August 2003. We are confident, however, that the work will be completed by the end of this year. So with any luck the book should be on sale by this time next year.

The centre piece of the book will be the full script of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, as presented by Mansfield at the Lyceum, London 1888. Other features will include a biography of Mansfield; the Stage in the 1880s; and, of course, Jack the Ripper, with particular focus on the ways in which the two sensations became popularly linked at the time.

Substantial appendices will include interviews with Mansfield, reviews of Jekyll & Hyde, and, among other things, the infamous letter to the City police suggesting Mansfield as the Whitechapel murderer. (I should like to say that, in compiling such documentary evidence, Nick Connell and Stewart Evans have been unstinting in their generosity)

I find it a very exciting project to be working on, and only hope it will prove to be of some interest to Ripperologists.

Sorry for rambling on and interrupting an interesting topic.

Best Wishes
alex

Author: Caroline Morris
Friday, 27 September 2002 - 04:24 am
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Hi Alex,

I certainly look forward to your book on this subject.

Will it mention anything about the contemporaneous spoof production, written I believe by George Grossmith, and called 'Hide and Seekill'? I'd love to know more details about this, how successful it was, who were the actors etc, but I know virtually nothing about it.

Thanks, and good luck with it!

Have a great weekend all.

Love,

Caz

Author: Esther Wilson
Friday, 27 September 2002 - 07:36 am
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Thank you all for your help and information....you guys are great! I'll be checking out those websites and waiting for the new book to come out. :)

Author: alex chisholm
Friday, 27 September 2002 - 10:54 am
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Hi Caz

“Hide and Seekyll (The Real Case Of)” will be touched upon in our book as George Grossmith’s half-hour musical farce appears specifically to have been a parody of Mansfield’s Lyceum performances.

The farce, with Lionel Brough in the title role, was presented at the Royalty Theatre London on 3 September 1888, as an end-piece to “The Paper Chase.” It received the inevitable mixed reviews and closed on the 15 September 1888, after which the company embarked on a provincial tour.

I’ve emailed you a couple of the reviews, which I hope you receive ok and find of some interest.

Best Wishes
alex


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