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Battle Fatigue?/Post Traumatic Stress?

Casebook Message Boards: General Discussion: General Topics: Battle Fatigue?/Post Traumatic Stress?
Author: Diana
Sunday, 03 March 2002 - 02:49 pm
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Here in America, after the end of the Viet Nam war we had a number of young men who came home half-mad from the horrors they had seen. They sometimes had a delusion that they were in battle again and they would attack those around them, sometimes with tragic results. One notable case was that of the young man who got up in a tower on a University campus and killed a number of people on the ground with a rifle.

Could Jack have been a soldier with battle fatigue or post traumatic stress syndrome? Would the military history of the Empire in the late 19th century list a conflict which would have produced a Jack?

Author: Warwick Parminter
Sunday, 03 March 2002 - 03:53 pm
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Hello Diana,
The Zulu War was a bloodthirsty conflict, but that took place in 1879, nine years before the Ripper. It was a war something like the American wars of the Western Plains, it was not a good idea to be taken alive by them. They disembowelled their enemy dead and their prisoners, also all military animals. My grandfather was a 19yr old soldier in that war, he got speared in the leg in close quarter fighting, I thank God he proved to be better than the Zulu.
Rick

Author: Diana
Sunday, 03 March 2002 - 04:19 pm
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I'm not suggesting that your grandfather was Jack. But the profiles posit a man in his late 20's so Jack could have been a contemporary (age-wise) of your grandfather. However one would have expected someone like this to have started their career right after the war, not ten years later. Hmmm

Author: cue
Sunday, 03 March 2002 - 06:49 pm
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Diana
Charles whitman was a Marine, shot expert on the rifle range,specialized in moving targets, but never served in vietnam.He was just nuts with the know how!kind of like some else?

Author: Chris Hintzen
Monday, 04 March 2002 - 07:22 am
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Hi Cue,

Yeah your right about Whitman. He never did serve in Vietnam and he was an EXPERT sharpshooter.(I believe he may have served in Korea, but not sure.) Actually an autopsy on his body was made and it was stated that he had either an embolism or a tumor in his brain.(Not sure which, it's been a while since I read up on the case.)

Kind of sounds like that whole William Gull stroke idea don't it?(Hehe, now I don't think Willie was Jacky but still God does like his little Ironies. )

Regards,

Chris H.

Author: Scott E. Medine
Monday, 04 March 2002 - 08:34 am
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Many cases of post traumatic syndrome are false. There was a time in the mid 80's when the country was coming to grips with the Vietnam War and the treatment of the veterans. Whenever someone was arrested for a particular grisly crime PTS was always diagonsed and the media ran wild with the story. Today it is considered good resume' padding to boast of being not only a Vietnam War vet but a Special Ops vet.

As a private investigator my firm, has contracts with two hospitals and the University of Georgia to verify the background of possible employees. We have blown the cover of several, including one clooege professor who came to the university highly recommended, he even claimed to be a Rhodes Scholor and a Vietnam vet. In truth he didn't even have a bachelors degree. His time in Vietnam was spent at the University of Washington, where he was a student and actively involved in the war protests of the time.

A good site to check out on PTS and falsifying ones military service is www.stolenvalor.com

Peace,
Scott

Author: Diana
Monday, 04 March 2002 - 08:42 pm
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Sorry for the mistake re Whitman.

Author: Neil K. MacMillan
Monday, 01 April 2002 - 08:19 pm
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Evening all:
Charles Whitman had some sort of tumor but he never served in Korea or Viet-nam. Born in 1941, Whitman was too young to serve in Korea. He killed his wife and mother and then went to the University of Texas at Austin tower where he commenced his bloodbath.
Keep in mind when looking for wars that jack could have acquired PTS or some variant disorder that he may have been killing or assaulting victims far before the accepted five. Also keep in mind that fifteen thousand british subjects served in the American Civil War which would have given Jack ample grist for PTS and that in addition to the Zulu war mentioned above there were numerous minor actions on the Indian frontier, Afghanistan and others. Also, if Jack was not British but American that also opens more possibilities (Remember on of the more viable suspects is Francis Tumblety of Rochester New York.)
This all goes out the window if Jack was not a military man but it should prove an interesting exercise in theory. Kindest regards, Neil


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