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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1945
Registered: 4-2003
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A PC based game simply entitled Jack the Ripper was published in 1994 by a company called, as far as I can establish, GameTech which ceased trading in 1997. The game is OK but some of the artwork I found really quite atmospheric. This game is now, as far as I understand, classed as "abandonware" and available free within the public domain. If any of these images are still copyright please let me know and I will have them removed.
Chris
The first is a view of the club in Berner Street:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1946
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:05 am: |
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Here is the Goulston Street doorway at night:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1947
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:08 am: |
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Hanbury Street, a view by night:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1948
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:11 am: |
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I think we all know where this one is...
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1826
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 3:17 pm: |
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Hi Chris,
Yes very atmospheric images. Once again the artist appears to have used photoshop for their illustrations and to excellent effect.There is no doubt that this sort of computerised image making leaves more traditional illustration work behind
both in terms of realistic representation and spectacular effect.Thanks for these-are there any more?
Natalie
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1949
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:53 pm: |
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Here is Buck's Row:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1950
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:55 pm: |
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The steps of Christchurch, Spitalfields:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:58 pm: |
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Flower and Dean street:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1952
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:59 pm: |
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The Frying Pan public house:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1953
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:03 pm: |
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A rainy evening in Mitre Square:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1954
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:08 pm: |
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The Princess Alice public house:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1955
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:11 pm: |
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The Ten Bells:
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1829
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:29 pm: |
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Quite remarkable- I like the Christchurch one you probably know this better than me but I think there would have been some homeless people huddled up on the steps in 1888 because the land around the church was known as Itchy Park because of them.I also like the Frying Pan one especially the ladder to the upstairs store room-there are still one or two buildingsa around White"s Row Car Park that have this feature -it is a bit unnerving because today there are no ladders and the doors lead straight out into the air!
This last is a remarkably similar, dont you think, in interpretation , to one of Jane"s-the rendering of the iron railings in particular in one of the Mitre Square drawings.
Brilliant -a worthwhile find!Must try to get one of these games!
Thanks for posting them Chris.
Natalie |
Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1830
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:33 pm: |
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Gosh,Chris ...I missed this of the Ten Bells-----fantastic isnt it-----I love the Victorian dressed shadowy figures in the big window.Quite authentic I would think. |
Stephen P. Ryder
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 3230
Registered: 10-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:55 pm: |
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I have to say, I'm pretty impressed by these. Especially for being digital images over a decade old, they're pretty well on the mark and nicely done.
Thanks for posting these Chris! I may have to get myself a copy of that game now.
Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1956
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:08 pm: |
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I agree that the images are very striking especially in view of their age.
Glad they were interesting!
I have checked and the game is still available for free download at the Underdogs website at:
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=564
Chris |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1957
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:13 pm: |
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The London Hospital by night:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1958
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:17 pm: |
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Night in Petticoat Lane:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1959
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |
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Thrawl Street:
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1833
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:22 pm: |
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Wow!-there is a street off Artillery Lane which has a Jewish synagogue still-at night it still looks just like this! |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 2407
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:38 pm: |
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CHRIS! theyre Fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A wonderful thing that Photoshop! wow have saved em all! Keep up the great work wow some food for thought here!
Cheers
Suzi x |
Howard Brown
Inspector
Username: Howard
Post Number: 347
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 7:34 pm: |
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Ah...excuse me...
I don't see the light on in D'onston's room at London Hospital..but I do at Goulston........
case closed....check please.
Great find Chris...thanks for sharing. |
Jane Coram
Inspector
Username: Jcoram
Post Number: 402
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:45 pm: |
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Hi Gang,
These are incredible.......I would bet that they are not done in Photoshop though........these are hand drawn and scanned in.........I would bet on it.......they are amazing.........really whoever did them, my hat off to them..........they are so good........and obviously that is from one horse to another.........
They are so atmospheric.........and I would buy that man or woman a drink if I knew who they were.
Thanks for putting those us Chris.....I am definitely going to grab that game!
Those have made my day...........
Love Jane
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 639
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:26 am: |
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Chris,
You wrote:
"This game is now, as far as I understand, classed as "abandonware" and available free within the public domain."
Sorry, but "abandonware" is not a legal concept, it's just a term software pirates came up with for games that they suspect they won't get sued over because the company in question is dead. They don't look into who got the rights when the company folded. They could have been bought up by a different company or reverted to the original artist(s).
If this was made in 1994 the copyright will not expire until... Man, what is the expiration length now... 75 years? 95 years? Even longer? Well, it will be long after most of us here are dead anyway, barring a massive change in copyright law, which I can't see happening.
Some companies do specifically give out old games for free -- the original Zork games are ones I remember having done this (even there they aren't public domain, they are just allowed to be distributed freely, "public domain" has a very specific meaning) -- but the company has to agree to do so in writing, it doesn't happen automatically.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
 Profile  Email  Dissertations  Website
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1834
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 2:56 am: |
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Hi Jane,
but the special effects are the result of computerised technology ?---the beams of light that illuminate the entire image-as they do ofcourse in your work BTW---surely s/he couldnt have got those effects to such a degree otherwise?
Anyway its remarkable work I agree.
Natalie |
Debra J. Arif
Sergeant
Username: Dj
Post Number: 20
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 4:26 am: |
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Hi Chris
These are a great find.
I downloaded the game last night but my computer doesn't like the format it is in.
There is an instruction booklet in PDF format on the site link you gave and this is absolutely wonderful, it has little black and white portrait pictures of most of the major suspects,(including Barnett and Kosminski), witnesses, police involved and victims as well as accurate details about them.
There are also pictures of other locations from the game with descriptions of each and a map location.
It even gives a social history background of the times and shows newspaper cuttings from The Police News.
The PDF file alone is really worth having!
Debra
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1960
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:22 am: |
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Dan
Thanks for the clarification.
If you think my posting these is going to cause any problem could you let Stephen know so they can be removed as the last thing I would want to do is to cause Casebook problems becuase of my misunderstanding
All the best
Chris
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 640
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:54 am: |
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Hi Chris,
I'm kind of a stickler for copyright laws, since the things I make (articles, books, websites, illustrations, etc.) depend upon it, but as a practical matter I doubt there will be any problem here. The reasons for that are way more complicated than I really want to get into.
I guess it's more of a warning in general. If someone were to apply the same logic these places give about "abandonware" to books, magazines, music, photos, etc. he or she would be bound to get into fairly serious trouble sooner or later.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
Profile Email Dissertations Website
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Jane Coram
Inspector
Username: Jcoram
Post Number: 404
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 10:41 am: |
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Hi Natalie,
I have had a good look at them again, you are probably right..... whoever did them could have used a brightness and darkness filter right at the end to get some of the contrast between light and dark, but they might still have done them without........it just would have taken longer......
I am certain though that almost all of the painting was done by hand and scanned in, then maybe one filter used to give it the final effect........(You have to still actually paint it, but not quite in the same way as you would on a canvas)
I would love to speak with them and find out just what they did do! But you are probably right that Photoshop was used just to give it the final umphh.......
I really am very impressed by them, but then you are no mean artist yourself Nats.......I love your work......I have them in a little folder and go and look at them every so often......
I am still trying to download the game, might go back there now and have another go.......I've got quite excited!
Love Jane
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1838
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:23 am: |
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Hi Chris,
It would be an awful shame if they had to be removed!
Hi Jane,
The work you describe sounds fascinating and todays computer aided effects are so wonderful!
I love to see that translucency in your illuminated work [especially with the "windows" which can also seen in some of the above night scenes]and I doubt it could be done as effectively by hand -although water colour also allows beautiful transparent effects its true .I especially noted such stunning effect when I first saw your portrait of Liz Stride!I had never seen such effects until then and although I do love the "painterly" textures and
brush effects that can be achieved with oils the that particular kind of transparent luminosity doesnt happen in the same way.
Natalie
ps thanks for your kind words! |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1961
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:05 pm: |
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Another view of Mitre Square - Ripper's Corner:
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Joan Taylor
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 10:53 am: |
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These are nothing like as good as our Jane's but the angles are very interesting, enabling us to see afew scenes from the girls' own eyes, which I like very much.
I think it was Sickert who talked about the emphasis of a new scene seen from a new angle, and the scope it provides. Not sure what he'd have said about the board game though- a tad too easy perhaps... :-)
Keep it coming Chris my goodness where do you get these items.
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1962
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:08 pm: |
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The Star and Garter:
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1963
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:10 pm: |
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The Working Lads' Institute:
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1841
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:29 pm: |
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Keep them coming Chris!
This last one of the working mens institute is lovely.
Jane thinks they were hand drawn first then illuminated with the computers light filter which sounds right especially for 1993.Things have advanced and been refined since then. I can also can see the trained illustrator here where the tiniest detail of the house and the neatness and
accuracy of the perspective is paramount- more important that is than its "painterliness". A real treasure chest this Chris!
Natalie |
Jane Coram
Inspector
Username: Jcoram
Post Number: 405
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:52 pm: |
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I LOVE the game,
I've just been killed three times in a row. It's wonderful! Maybe we could start a competition to see who gets killed the most!
Jane
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Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 3411
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:25 pm: |
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Hmmm...
It took me 45 minutes to download the zip file, and now I can't open it, because it is in some strange RAR format.
Either the file doesn't work with WinZip 9.0 or Windows XP (or both -- my computer is brand new), or you all seem to have something I don't.
Guess I'm going to have to scan the web for a download page of that software via Microsoft Application Search, and see if that works.
(Message edited by Glenna on April 29, 2005)
G. Andersson, author/crime historian
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2014
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:32 pm: |
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Chris
loved the images.
There will be no problem with a copyright issue here at all. Having just been dealing with this very sort of stuff for the last couple of weeks, a period of ten years lapse is considered to be a complete and utter rejection of copyright and contractual rights.
Not legally binding anymore even if the original contract says different.
Of course, if the the images have been republished by another company in those lapsed years then there would obviously be a copyright issue.
They are really good images.
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David O'Flaherty
Chief Inspector
Username: Oberlin
Post Number: 842
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:48 pm: |
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Hi Glenn,
You can open a RAR file by using a program called WinRar. It's a similar program to WinZip, if you're already using that.
Cheers,
Dave |
Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 3412
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:57 pm: |
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Hi Dave,
Thanks, I just found it on the web.
But now another problem: all I see is a huge pile of files and folders and I can't find anything that looks like a starting or set-up file. From which file does the game start?
All the best
G. Andersson, author/crime historian
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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David O'Flaherty
Chief Inspector
Username: Oberlin
Post Number: 843
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 6:03 pm: |
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Hi Glenn,
Sorry, I don't know but maybe someone who has the game can help.
Cheers,
Dave |
Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 3413
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 6:07 pm: |
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Hi Dave,
Well, I was told it was the program file called RIPPER, that should start it all, but all I get is a black screen, and I have waited for several minutes. Nothing else happening.
I am beginning to wonder if this game work at all with Windows XP -- seems totally based on MS DOS environment; might be too old for my system.
All the best
G. Andersson, author/crime historian
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 1964
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 6:23 pm: |
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Glenn
The file that starts the game on my system (Windows ME) is jack.bat
Chris |
Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 3414
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 6:57 pm: |
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Sorry, Chris. Same result.
It still seems to work from MS DOS, and Windows XP is not DOS-based in the same way.
XP is pretty much as different from Windows ME as it can possibly be and not at all the same system.
But thanks anyway.
(Message edited by Glenna on April 29, 2005)
G. Andersson, author/crime historian
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 642
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:54 pm: |
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Hi AP,
You wrote:
"Having just been dealing with this very sort of stuff for the last couple of weeks, a period of ten years lapse is considered to be a complete and utter rejection of copyright and contractual rights."
Sorry, but you are talking about something different. That's a lapse due to your original contract but not a lapse in copyright. Somebody still owns the copyrights on the images above, and the game itself, and if they want to enforce them they still can.
And think about it here... if your argument as you try to use it in this case were true, then your book would be public domain by now and anyone and everyone could distribute it for free, online or in print, and -- if it were public domain -- sell it themselves, make money of off it and not give you a dime. You still have the copyright. If someone else were publishing it you could force them to stop, and sue if you wanted, and so forth and so on.
Copyrights are unlike trademarks in that not enforcing them does not count as abandoning them. Until the full copyright runs out (which, again, is not ten years but closer to a hundred these days) they are still owned by someone.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
Profile Email Dissertations Website
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Debra J. Arif
Sergeant
Username: Dj
Post Number: 21
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 4:58 am: |
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Hi Glenn
I am having exactly the same trouble as you with the game, I have XP too...and I want to play it!!
If you manage to find a way to get it working can you let me know please?
Debra |
Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 3415
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 7:23 am: |
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Hi Debra,
Unfortunately, so far no luck. I have given up on it now. The game is quite old, so I guess we're screwed.
All the best
G. Andersson, author/crime historian
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Maria Giordano
Inspector
Username: Mariag
Post Number: 365
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 9:37 am: |
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I have a question about the images. I realize it's a game and all, but does anyone have a feel for how accurate they are in terms of lighting? Jane?
I'm asking because I've always had trouble visualizing the relative brightness,or maybe I should say darkness, of the scenes. For instance, Mitre Square seems brighter than I would have expected.
Again, these images aren't meant to be a scholarly work and may be inaccurate to enhance the game playing but I was curious anyway. Thanks.
Mags
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1851
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 10:04 am: |
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Hi Maria,
I am curious about that myself.Quite a bit is
partly accurate.I was surprised for example to see 29 Hanbury Street depicted in the same way as Jane did it with the Brill lettering above the door.We now know though that this was in fact later than 1888 because in 1888 RICHARDSON THE PACKING CASE MANUFACTURER WAS ABOVE ONE DOOR and CATS MEAT
was on a sign in the window.Also, on the morning of Annie Chapman"s murder there would have been no need for lighting -it was already daylight and the sun was beginning to rise and the shutters were still closed[according to Elizabeth Long who passed by at 5.30.
Interesting though is that the artist has got right the idea of a "semi" open door----the door was unlocked 24 hours a day according to the wishes of the[deeply religious] landlady MRS RICHARDSON-who said she had lived there for years and trusted all her neighbours.
I think though that the two door feature came later with the BRILL sign.
I must try to repost my painting of this scene-dont know why it wont display anymore but I took
it from contemporary newspaper drawings and think it may be pretty accurate re the actual scene as described by Mrs Long in her inquest statement.
I havent studied the others for lighting but I think you are quite right and probably the producers of the Game simply commissioned a commercial artist/or Illustrator to carry out the visuals
Natalie
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2016
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 1:46 pm: |
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Dan
you are most certainly right... but, there is always a 'but', and in my own case, of course the original copyright belonged to me, rights to that copyright were merely loaned to the publisher for a period of time.
However if we go back ten years I think the copyright issue concerning the electronic world was still up for grabs, it is only recently that copyright issue has been determined in the electronic world. Or has it?
As I said you are very likely quite right, but there are always 'buts', as a for instance, where I reside at the moment - a fiefdom of the Duke of Normandy - I could pirate anything I like and there is not a thing anybody could do about it, because international copyright law is not recognised by the Duke of Normandy... mainly on account of him dying some hundreds of years ago. You will find that Singapore and India also do not recognise the concept of copyright.
I have found several of my books being reprinted by enterprising Indian publishers and there was Jack **** I could do about it. |
Jane Coram
Inspector
Username: Jcoram
Post Number: 407
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 2:50 pm: |
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Hi,
I am looking back at them as I type to see just how accurate the lighting etc. is......I did notice the Hanbury Street one was a bit off, but for 11 years ago, they did a pretty good job.........
I can't see anything wrong with Berner Street at all, although its a bit dark to see properly, even got the cart wheel on the wall.........
Hanbury Street, wrong but understandly so....for reasons Natalie has gone into......
Miller's Court pretty spot on..............
Bucks Row pretty spot on, except the gates to the stable yard are about twice as wide as they should be.......they were actually quite narrow in the scheme of things.....but he/she hasn't got the later garage construction around it, so really pretty good indeed.....hats off to him/her......
Mitre Square, pretty good, the lamp is a bit far to the right I think without checking back which makes the place look a bit narrow, but that is a pretty good rendering of the James passage. A bit light, but obviously he/she had to think of the game........according to Monty those gas lamps throw out very little light indeed...........
the one of Ripper corner pretty spot on too, but it would have been much darker.........
all in all though I am really pretty gobsmacked at the accuracy..........I wish I had seen these before I did mine.........it would have saved me a few nervous breakdowns!!!!!!!!
I think the lighting overall would seem to be the sort you would get on a full moon maybe
see what Glenn, Nats and Suzi think...........
Love Jane
xxxxxx
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Phil Hill
Inspector
Username: Phil
Post Number: 400
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 3:47 pm: |
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Chris, belatedly, I have just got to add my thanks for finding these wonderful, evocative images. Great stuff,
With much appreciation,
Phil |
ex PFC Wintergreen
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 5:26 am: |
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Mary Kelly in her more vibrant years
Wintergreen |
ex PFC Wintergreen
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 5:34 am: |
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how authentic are these pics, I mean when I'm looking at the pic of the corner of Mtire Square, am I looking at what it looked like or are they an artists impression? |
Maria Giordano
Inspector
Username: Mariag
Post Number: 374
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 5:31 pm: |
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Thanks, Jane. I know you've done a lot of research and I value your opinion.
Mags
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1860
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 6:23 pm: |
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Wintergreen
HA! HA! BLOODY HA!
NATS
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Glenn G. Lauritz Andersson
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Glenna
Post Number: 3419
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 6:46 pm: |
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Hi all,
I totally agree with Jane about the full moon lighting effect. Some of the scenes do seem to too light, although I suspect that is made deliberately in order to create atmosphere. It would be quite useless with a game where everything is close to pitch black. But yes, I too get the feeling of a full moon light here.
To me the pictures seem to be hand-made indeed and in their style they remind me quite much of backgrounds produced for animated movies. Walt Disney used water coloured backgrounds in their early films (they later experimented with old paint on glass), and what we see here looks quite similar.
It is possible, though, that they to some extent may have been processed in a computer software à la Photoshop afterwards -- I can't rule it out -- but they don't necessarily have to be.
Be that as it may, I fully agree with jane's comments. And the pictures are very good and quite atmospheric although not all of them completely accurate.
My main concern is that some of them may look a bit too idyllic.
By the way, did Buck's Row really have such a large tree as the one seen to the right?
Wintergreen!
Hahahaha. 
I just love it. Once again, a genius at work. If you're not using that humoristic talent of yours professionally, it's a terrible waste.
All the best
(Message edited by Glenna on April 30, 2005)
G. Andersson, author/crime historian
Sweden
The Swedes are the men That Will not be Blamed for Nothing
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn
Post Number: 1861
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
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I"m with AP on this.They are really 1st rate!
Natalie |
