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Jennifer D. Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg

Post Number: 1879
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi guys,
you know this talk about a bbc drama staring Shane Ritchie (!!) has got me wondering what would our ideal JTR movie be like.

I always think my ideal JTR movie would have Robert Lees in it only briefly walking out the police station after being called a madman!

But that's not a very long film now is it!?

So anyway what do you guys think?

Jenni
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert

Post Number: 4077
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 1:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Jenni

I'm just wondering whether to do the case justice a film would be too short. Perhaps a six part TV serial (but not, for Pete's sake, a soap opera).

I am not au fait with the film and TV world, but if Stephen Spielberg could direct it in the same manner that he did "Duel," and if they could find parts for Ron Moody somewhere, and for David Jason as Abberline, then that would be a start.

Robert
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George Hutchinson
Inspector
Username: Philip

Post Number: 345
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 8:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No Ripper film would be worth doing without me in it.

I am the living embodiment of the late 19th Century pseudo-Dickensian squalor (well, George is). And as I'm a pro actor it is about time I should have more on telly than not winning The Weakest Link, not winning the competition on So Graham Norton (came close on both though!) and being thrown out of a pub by Dennis Waterman in The Canterbury Tales!

And now, Philip coming back to the real world...

I would just like to see people playing the parts who look and sound like the people we know about ('sound' is being generic - I am referring to a longing for some proper Apples & Pears Me Old Sparrah voices).

I'd like to see some really good naturalistic UNKNOWNS doing it. I like Robbie Coltrane, but Hagrid should never have been in The East End. Not after having seen him in drag in The Fruit Machine!

Failing that, we could have the cast of Hollyoaks doing it and then we could actually feel good as they get picked off one by one.

PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg

Post Number: 1886
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 3:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robert,
how about JTR the musical!

David Jason - excellent choice!

Philip,

you like Hollyoaks then?!

Yes look like the people, that would be good.

and probably an unsatisfactory no idea who Jack is ending!!

Jenni

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Robert Charles Linford
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Post Number: 4087
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 7:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know, let's make it a comedy. Philip can play a tour guide from 1888, leading puzzled police around London and showing them the sites. He'll be a great friend of Lees, and this will enable him to take Kelly on a tour, and point out to her the place where she'll be murdered. Jenni, how do you feel about singing "Only A Violet"?

Robert
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George Hutchinson
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Username: Philip

Post Number: 348
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robert - I pride myself on being the only Ripper guide who actually sings 'Only A Violet' for my tourists (not the whole 5 verses!) - before I get any charges of transvesticism, remember it was originally meant to be sung by a bloke!

Oh, what it would be to see London in 1888... I seriously wonder if I would be able to do a walk, seeing how much so much has changed. I think I'd be OK except for the part where I currently leave Bell Lane and go through Tenter Ground where there were previously houses (never mind, I could always walk up to White's Row). Am I rambling? Yes (no, you're walking...)

Jen - Yes, I love Hollyoaks. As much as I love (The) Spice Girls (and Charles and Godzilla). And there are already several musicals on Jack (and even a ballet). So NER!

A comedy on Jack. God, how weird. A big rubber knife...

PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Phil Hill
Detective Sergeant
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To me the "ideal" Ripper film would be a factual one - in a "police procedural" vein. It would focus on investigation as accurately as possible, and also feature the rivalries and politics of Scotland Yard and the Home Office, and dip into the East End as Abberline and his colleagues do. We would meet the witnesses and suspects as as the police do, and see the victims in flashbacks as the police put their stories together.

The culmination would be the frustration and lack of agreement among the police in not nailing "Jack",and perhaps a hint that there was a story that no-one was being told.

The style would aim to capture the period and background in detail - distrust of the police, Warren's attempted reforms, the Fenian angle, in a manner reminiscent of the TV series, The West Wing or Spooks, (busy multi-layered, complex, driven, but with an appropriate Victorian atmosphere and tone.

A short series (six episodes or two long ones) might be better to achieve this than a single feature film.

Phil
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Howard Brown
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Username: Howard

Post Number: 248
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 6:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Phil...
Its strange but I was thinking about something like what you just said today,but from the p.o.v. of the working folks ! Damn ! It sure would be a great undertaking.

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Maria Giordano
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Post Number: 323
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Style is everything for me. I loved From Hell just for the atmosphere it created.( I was watching Shakespeare in Love the other night and was thinking about how the money they put into it to try to get the atmosphere right made it so interesting for me in spite of the silly plot).

I'd like the movie to be as factual as possible and to really give the idea of what the place was like and especially what the people were like. I suppose that wouldn't be very commercial,though, would it?
Mags
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Robert Charles Linford
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 8:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On the issue of being commercial, I don't think there'd need to be an American actor playing Abberline or whatever. As long as a popular American actor played Tumblety, hopefully that would bring in US sales.

Robert
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Jennifer D. Pegg
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Post Number: 1891
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 4:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Robert,

I like your idea. I'm thinking Will Farrell!

Jenni
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Robert Charles Linford
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 4:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jenni, thanks. I'm thinking who he?

Robert
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Jennifer D. Pegg
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Post Number: 1892
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I beg your pardon, Will Ferrell!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002071/

Elf

Jenni
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Stef Kukla
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Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If only Bruce Robinson WERE writing that film...

Though I'm too young to portray JAMES Maybrick, I'd love to play MICHAEL----particularly if Charles Dance had the part of 'James'.

Whatja reckon?!

Amazing...the effect a tash & a hat can make









By the way, I SWEAR this photoshoot was 100% spontaneous!!!!

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