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Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 906
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 3:07 pm: | 
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hi this film is on next wed 8th of sept at 12 midnight on ITV1 UK TV
i think they are the correct details
premier!!
Jenni
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr
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Christopher T George
Chief Inspector
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 884
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 11:49 am: |
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Hi, Jennifer
If it is the movie I think it is, I reviewed the 1997 Australian TV movie "The Ripper" starring Patrick Bergin as Inspector Jim Hansen for Ripper Notes some years back. Unfortunately, I found the flick to be a pretty dire effort, hammily acted and with many of the old clichés. Don't expect much.
I won't be a spoiler, though, if you want to approach it with an open mind. Let me mention a couple of howlers to be seen, however, just for fun. At one point, they show a shot of Tower Bridge. . . The bridge was not built until 1894. And check out the evidently 1930's to 1940's steamship at the end of the show.
Jen, the movie has been rated on that useful site, the Internet Movie Database, if you want to learn more about the movie before delving into those dank alleyways looking for Jack. . . 
All the best
Chris George
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 920
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 3:47 pm: |
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Chris,
I'm just the messenger. I can reveal a total of two stars in the tv listings mag (thats three whole stars less than the blob got!)
I like to watch all these films when I get a chance mainly to shout a lot at the screen.
Yes it is that one you say staring Patrick Bergin.
I bet come weds i forget it is a whole week away!!
Jenni
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 1150
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |
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Hi Jenni
Spose it may be worth setting the vid for so we can have something to grumble at!
Cheers
Suzi
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 950
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 5:05 am: |
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Tonight, this is on,
thats all
Jenni
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr
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Sarah Long
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 1298
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 4:30 am: |
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Ok, how cr*p was that. I fell asleep half way through. My complaints and questions (due to my falling asleep):-
1) They seem to have completely forgotton about Polly Nichols's completely.
2) How on earth was Annie Chapman's body spotted by a man with a horse and cart when her body was in an enclosed backyard?
3) They actually showed Prince Albert Victor doing the murders!!
4) Who on earth was that Miss Lewis? (I actually want to know this as I fell asleep. Was she important?)
5) This Miss Lewis, was her prostitute friend Mary Kelly? (Yup, a real question as I fell asleep)
6) Miss Lewis (can't remember what her first name was) was the one who interrupted the killing of Liz Stride (who wasn't being killed in a yard by the way).
7) When Inspector Hansen was showing Miss Lewis some photos he showed her the Mary Kelly murder when that hadn't even happened yet.
8) I'm also sure that one of the policemen were Australian trying very hard to be an eastender.
Ok, I'm sure there are more but can't remember off hand. I did not like this film at all as you can probably tell and I think "From Hell" was much better, I mean at least they had most of the facts down whether their Jack the Ripper was part of a conspiracy of not.
I'm surprised this film even got two stars.
Sarah
Smile and the world will wonder what you've been up to 
Smile too much and the world will guess 
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 961
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 4:35 am: |
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Sarah,
i havent watched it yet but ive videoed it hopefully, so i'll let you know!
Jenni
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 963
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 5:11 am: |
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something went wrong there oh well!
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr
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Sarah Long
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 1303
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 10:31 am: |
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Jenni,
You watched it yet? Your comments?
Sarah
Smile and the world will wonder what you've been up to
Smile too much and the world will guess
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 968
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 10:41 am: |
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Sarah,
my video went wrong!!!!!
Jenni
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr
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Sarah Long
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Sarah
Post Number: 1305
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 11:57 am: |
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Jenni,
Oh well, it saved you from a horrible Ripper film at least.
Sarah
Smile and the world will wonder what you've been up to
Smile too much and the world will guess
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Christopher T George
Chief Inspector
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 898
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 12:32 pm: |
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Hi, Sarah
I did try to warn you. 
Chris
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
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Howard Brown
Detective Sergeant
Username: Howard
Post Number: 57
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 8:58 pm: |
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Ms. Long and Jenn:
I saw the movie too.
Bergin was pretty good in the film,Mountains Of The Moon, a film about the Speke-Burton expedition to find the source of the Nile River { somewhere in Northeast Philly,I believe...}.
Its a pretty decent flick...Bergin plays Sir Richard Francis Burton,who was actually second to Speke on the expedition.... |
Carl Burrows
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 8:08 am: |
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Hi Jennifer,
I watched this film last night and thought it was really bad,the acting was really hammy and used so many cliches and half truths ( the shiny coins next to the victims)I'm not quite sure what it was trying to be.Its suprising how many ripper based films have been made ( some here )
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/movie.php?search=the+ripper&searchby=movies
you might be suprised to know theres a film called Jill the Ripper starring Dolph Lungren, although I dont its about the 1888 Jill suspect.
I think the whole Royal/masonic angle has been done to death on the big screen and I think there are more credible and intersting suspects who could be used as subject matter.
Although I dont personally subscribe to them as being the Ripper, suspects such as D'onston, based around a black magic theme would make an interesting film, or perhaps Tumbelty covering his early exploits in America. |
Nick Cook
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 7:36 am: |
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They started construction of the tower bridge in 1886, it took 8 years to complete so was completed in 1894. Depends how much of it was constructed 2 years into construction in 1888, i doubt it was anywhere near looking finished though. |
Eric J. Matatics
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 8:37 am: |
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Speaking of the Ripper in the media, people should check out the 1972 "thriller," Terror in the Wax Museum, which features a wax figure of Jack that, during various dream sequences, "comes alive." Jack wears the typical top hat, etc. It's a silly flick, but if caught in the proper mood, it can be mildly fun.
The film seems to be geared for the twelve-or-younger set, yet stars an elderly cast including Ray Milland, Elsa Lanchester, and John Carradine. |
Debra Arif
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 1:27 pm: |
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Hi Sarah
I stayed up to watch this cr*p too, but I wish I'd had the good sense to fall asleep like you!
I think it was supposed to be a work of fiction based 'loosely' around the murders.
I think Florrie Lewis was supposed to be based on Mary Kelly ( she was living alone in a downstairs room in a small court and was Irish?), although in this film she survived the Ripper and sailed off to America with the detective in charge of the case.
The funniest part was that the detective managed to identify Albert Victor as the Ripper because he smelt of apricots ( something to do with his syphillis treatment!)
I cringed all the way through it, hoping it would get better.
I wish someone would make a film that centred around the lives of the victims and less daft half baked theories
I wonder when there will be a film with Maybrick as the ripper.
Debra  ( feeling a bit tired after wasting my beauty sleep)}
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James Jeffrey Paul
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:19 am: |
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I thought that Sam West was excellent as Prince Eddy, though--he was so frightened, vulnerable, and mad! |
Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2854
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 10:43 am: |
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This was on again the other night and i managed to see it.
Its the weirdest thing ever.
I liked the bit where he burnt the horse (wtf!!).
I was guessing all the way through the the killer might be (NOT!)
Jenni
ps well I'll just have to tape over it then!
"You know I'm not gonna diss you on the Internet
Cause my momma taught me better than that."
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 841
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 11:28 am: |
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Gabrielle Anwar's talents are totally wasted in this.
(She has talents, I swear.)
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
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Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2856
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 11:39 am: |
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Which one was she then?
"You know I'm not gonna diss you on the Internet
Cause my momma taught me better than that."
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Dan Norder
Chief Inspector
Username: Dannorder
Post Number: 842
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 12:05 pm: |
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The potential Ripper victim/lower class female/investigating officer love interest.
Funny how that's a common role in these things.
Dan Norder, Editor
Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
Profile Email Dissertations Website
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Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2857
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 12:29 pm: |
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I see i think her name was Florrie
"You know I'm not gonna diss you on the Internet
Cause my momma taught me better than that."
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Stanley D. Reid
Inspector
Username: Sreid
Post Number: 276
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 6:03 pm: |
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I love it when you talk dirty Jenni. Actually, I didn't think the film was all that bad save the tired old silly ending. When it comes to movies about JTR, two stars puts it near the head of the field.
Goodies,
Stan
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Gareth W
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 6:09 pm: |
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I agree with Dan about Ms Anwar's talents - both hers and Samuel West's excellent performances were what made this concoction tolerable for me. Credit is also due for the depiction of life in the East End - more authentically reconstructed here than in "From Hell", for instance.
Unexpected bonus point for having "Jack" (aka Sam West as the Prince) torching his horse alive. It's not uncommon for psychopaths to be cruel to animals, so if this was a deliberate touch (rather than merely gratuitous horror) then it carried some degree of psychological insight.
Bergin's accent was dreadful which only served to highlight the lumpen dialogue given to him and most of the others.
What annoys me is that, even if the script-writers needed to invent characters like Mary's friend, Florrie Lewis (Anwar), even if they changed Abberline's name completely, why do they also feel compelled to distort *utterly* the sequence of events otherwise? Surely there's enough interesting material in the simple facts, even if you then go on to hang a "Royal Conspiracy" plot around them.
By the way, Jenny, not only was her name "Florrie" but she worked in a cotton mill!
Come to think of it, were there any cotton mills within walking distance of Dorset St anyway...?
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Gary Alan Weatherhead
Chief Inspector
Username: Garyw
Post Number: 707
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 5:30 am: |
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Hi Jen
I saw the film a long time ago and took it for what it was. A commercial attempt to attract an audience based on what the producers thought would fill the seats during that time period, with acting, a script and special effects to match. Nevertheless, it was about "Jacky" so why not watch the thing, errors and all.
All The Best
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Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 2866
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 6:16 am: |
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I sat down to watch it with my family, and even they did not like it.
It had a twist at the beginning
Jenni
"You know I'm not gonna diss you on the Internet
Cause my momma taught me better than that."
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