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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 1240
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 1:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Our Jack doth turn up in the most unusual sites, here's a player's site that brushed my ego:

The Theocratic Dulcimer Company

HOME ¢¾ Poker ¢À Messiah Project ♦ Lists ¢¼ Weblog ¢¾ Miscellaneous Updated 10 August 2004

Who Was Jack The Ripper?


Verdict
The writer A P Wolf makes a perceptive observation concerning the views of the police involved in the investigation. He comments that their later-stated conclusions do not tally with the record of the investigations at the time. As Wolf points out, the search for the Ripper intensified after Druitt had died and Kosminski was in an asylum. the truth of the matter was probably best expressed by Inspector Abberline, who was closely involved in the investigation. He wrote in 1903 that 'Scotland Yard is really no wiser on the subject than it was fifteen years ago.' John Stalker, the former Deputy Chief Constable of Manchester, has looked at the police records of the affair. He stated that, in his opinion, 'The police came nowhere near him.' The number of serial killings that have remained unsolved or have only been solved after a considerable period, even in modern times, is testimony to the difficulties of detection of this kind of criminal. Criminal investigation was in its infancy at the time and this was compounded by the general ineptness of the police. The Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Sir Charles Warren, was a former Army Major General and had no training in police methods. The head of the CID, James Munro, a highly regarded investigator, resigned at the time the first murder took place because of differences with Warren.

It is difficult, therefore, to give much credibility to police theories of the time about who the Ripper was. Modern writers, with little or no new evidence available, often provide ingenious and imaginative speculation. Unfortunately these rarely can be tested against known facts. Perhaps the most likely conclusion to be drawn is that the Ripper was someone who was either cursorily investigated and then ignored by the police or someone who was never even considered as a suspect, a nondescript nobody who may have seemed outwardly normal to those around him. After the writer Daniel Farson presented a TV programme about the Ripper in 1959, he received a letter from a 77 year old man in Australia who described his father, a dung carrier in Whitechapel at the time, telling him very vividly of being the Ripper. In the unlikely case of us really finding out who the Ripper was, it is probably going to be due to some chance revelation of this kind that is found to tally with known facts and perhaps links up with some lead uncovered at the time.


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Dan Norder
Inspector
Username: Dannorder

Post Number: 212
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A player's site? Like poker players? Dulcimer players? Like "we be playahs, gonna lands us some chickie babes" players?

Well, whichever. I think they make a good point, or more that you do since they are crediting it to you.

When I wander upon references to me online that I didn't already know about, usually they are the sort of thing where I have to threaten a lawsuit to get it taken down, LOL.

Dan Norder, editor, Ripper Notes
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 1242
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Dan
I just wonder whose dung the dung carrier was carrying around Whitechapel in 1888?
Not the sort of chap you would want to bump into at the dark of night.
You should avoid lawsuits and get a nice pin stripe.
I once brought a book on Middle East wildlife in Foyles for a princely sum and found eight of my own photographs in it.
They paid.
I wouldn't be happy if Jack was a 'dung carrier'.
Sort of my life gone down the toilet.
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 1244
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Found our old mate Chris Miles on the WWW, on of all things a site telling you how to work at home and make money from the internet.
Go for it Chris... beats working for a living anyday.
Enjoy:

'Chris Miles
My New Book: On the Trail of a Dead Man: The Identity of Jac
Sat Dec 6, 2003 05:40
195.92.198.72

I've included the 'Introduction' of the book, to give a general idea of its contents.

Introduction


It had never been a long-term intention of mine to write this book.'

He should have stopped there.
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 1245
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This one is absolute essential reading for everyone:

Pall Mall Gazette, deals with ‘‘The Classic Case’’ of Jack the Ripper. ... events
that had passed through the filters of witnesses, reporters, editors ...
<yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/pdf/0300088728>

Wonderful stuff!
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 1248
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wow!
This one is a must for all the number freaks.
A bigger pile of dung I haven't read before but the dear chap does find some very interesting background material on certain senior law officers of the time.
Well worth your time:

'then, in a very intellectual Jewish way, started ... pall_mall_gaz ette/pmg881009.html. [34] "Jack the Ripper ... Murders: How To Respond To Alleged Masonic Connections. ...
www.econcrisis.homestead.com/JTR2.html - '

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