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Chris Michetti
Detective Sergeant
Username: Pl4tinum
Post Number: 111
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 9:56 am: |       |
So... I'm (stupidly) making my way through the Cornwell book and I hit this paragraph:
"I'll shoot you in the mouth, bitch, because I'm tired of hearing you nag. I'll throw your body in the tub and dump acid all over it, you c*nt. That's what you get for screwing around on me. I'll stab you in the eyes because I'm tired of you staring at me. I'll drain your blood and drink it because aliens are taking all of mine. I'll dismember you and boil you piece by piece so I can flush you down the toilet and no one will ever know. Hop on the back of my Harley, you slut, and I'll take you to a motel and cut you hundreds of times with a razor and scissors and watch you slowly die, because that's the initiation I gotta do before I can be a member of the gang."
The next paragraph starts:
"Mary Ann Nichols' wounds tell us that the Ripper did not want her to struggle or scream..."
What the heck was that all about anyway? I don't even feel like finishing the book after reading rubbish like that. I guess I'm preaching to the choir here, though! 
Chris 
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Ally
Inspector
Username: Ally
Post Number: 497
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 12:21 pm: | |
Chris, chris, chrissy,
Do not try to make sense of the Cornball. She is a fiction writer with the pretense of writing a non-fiction book. She doesn't understand that she really can't go off into flights of fantasy like that in a non-fiction book. Of course, I am not altogether convinced that she understands the difference between reality and make believe anyway...
Kisses,
Ally
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Michael Raney
Inspector
Username: Mikey559
Post Number: 269
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 1:27 pm: | |
Ally,
Very well said. Hey, what's with the kisses?? Don't forget, he's spoken for.
Mikey |
Michael Raney
Inspector
Username: Mikey559
Post Number: 270
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 1:30 pm: | |
Chris,
I had to put the book down several times for the same reason. It was so hard to get through the bullsh*t hoping that she was going to have something important to say somewhere. She never did.
Mikey |
Dan Norder
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 12:15 pm: | |
Chris Michetti wrote:
"What the heck was that all about anyway?"
Mental break? Stream of consciousness writing? Bad cut and paste while trying to assemble a poorly-researched book on a tight deadline to meet promises hastily made on television?
I don't know, but anytime I read anything of hers related to her Ripper theory I just keep thinking, "This woman *writes* for a living? How is that even possible?" |
Chris Michetti
Detective Sergeant
Username: Pl4tinum
Post Number: 113
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 2:12 pm: | |
LOL Mikey, thanks for the hope... now I know I'm wading through the same crap for nothing :P
"...aliens are taking all of mine" ???? I think a 5 year old could have come up with that one...
Chris
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Jennifer D. Pegg
Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 256
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 2:45 pm: | |
What page are you on????
Jennifer D. Pegg
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Chris Michetti
Detective Sergeant
Username: Pl4tinum
Post Number: 114
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 2:53 pm: | |
Page 112 has the paragraph I quoted.
Chris
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John Fogarty
Detective Sergeant
Username: Goryboy
Post Number: 68
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 5:07 pm: | |
All:
Well said. Ms Cornwell's faction/fiction fairy tale reads like a feminist diatribe rather than a forensic appraisal of the evidence, re Sickert. Whenever possible, she injects a "men are pigs" sentiment into her overall invective. Most disappointing.
Still, I forced myself to read the bugger THREE times in the hope there might be a gem hidden in the pile of bilge she spews. But . . . nada. Zilch. Her mitochrondrial DNA "evidence" is laughable, though she has shed some light on the stationary and watermarks used by various correspondents. Still, her conclusions (and thus most of her evidence) are ridiculously biased.
Cheers,
Cheers,
John e-Rotten
(a.k.a., Goryboy) |
Jennifer D. Pegg
Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 275
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 3:22 pm: | |
saw this in biography section at bookshop.
walter sickert must be turning in his grsave that that is the only 'biography' avaible on hi there!
Jennifer |
Sooty Bill
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 6:37 am: | |
I may be way off base here..I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination..But I thought Walter Sickert had a son named Joseph...Cornwell says he was incapable of fathering children. Can someone clear this up for me? |
Jennifer D. Pegg
Chief Inspector
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 890
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 12:06 pm: | |
Sooty Bill
the late Joseph Gorman Sickert claimed to be the son of Walter Sickert and it is part of the basis of the royal carriage theory.
Jenni
"Think things, not words." - O.W. Holmes jr |
Thomas C. Wescott
Inspector
Username: Tom_wescott
Post Number: 160
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 12:05 am: | |
Sooty,
Cornwell completely misunderstood the medical evidence in relation to Sickert's fistula. She has it on his penis, when in fact it was on his behind. She then draws from this piece of misinformation that his penis was useless, and therefore he couldn't father children. Of course, this flies in the face of known facts, such as that one of his wives left him for adultery. This was the basis for Cornwell's motive, and it was all misinformation, thus her whole case falls apart at the start. Having said that, there's also no solid proof (other than, to my knowledge, his word) that Joseph Gorman Sickert WAS the son of Walter Sickert. I hope this helps.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott |
Robert J. McLaughlin
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 3:49 am: | |
Sooty,
All the evidence is that Joseph Sickert was born Joseph Gorman, the recognised legitimate son of a boxer named William Gorman and Alice Margaret Crook. This information is backed up by Joseph's birth certificate. He was born in London, 22 October 1925, and died just recently on 09 January, 2003. Joe was partially deaf and inherited this trait from him mother who was completely so.
The only obvious connection between Joseph Gorman and Walter Sickert is that Joe was a junk dealer, artist, and picture restorer in Camden, and some time around or after Walter Sickert's death, he announced that he was the illegitimate son of Camden's most famous painter. But Joe's mother, Alice Margaret Crook, really was illegitimate, and we have no idea who her father was. It is possible that she was claiming to be Walter Sickert's daughter before Joe latched on to the tale. It is also possible that she was already spinning some royal connection, and it is through her stories that Joe developed his.
I know of not one living Ripper expert who believed in Joseph Gorman's stories (lies). The smartest thing Cornwell did when writing her book was to distance herself from his ridiculous claims. It is one of the few things Cornwell should be given credit for.
Robert |
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