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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris

Post Number: 1101
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Found this truly bizarre story today:

St. James's Gazette (London)
9 October 1888

THE MURDERS AT THE EAST END

A DETECTIVE STABBED
This morning at an early hour the police were informed by some Italians at Eyre street hill that a man who answered the description of the murderer had been seen there, and that he had been ion the company of a woman with whom he had left. Detetcive sergeant John Robinson, disguised in woman's clothes, went in search of the man, who was said by the Italians to have entered a cab yard in Phoenix place, Clerkenwell, and secreted himself behind the cabs. Some men employed in the yard went to the officer and asked what he wanted there, and on being told that he was a police officer they left; but directly afterwards two other men went up to him and demanded that he should clear out at once, saying that they were going to protect their master's property. Robinson informed them that he was a police officer, and requested them to keep quiet, when one of them struck him a violent blow in the face, after which the man took from his pocket a knife, with which he stabbed Robinson in the face, while the other man kicked him. Robinson called out that he had been stabbed, and a young man whom he knew came into the yard, thinking that the officer had captured the murdered, and went at once to his assistance, and then the young man, whose name is Henry Doncaster, was stabbed and assaulted. Some Italians afterwards went to the assistance of Robinson and Doncaster, and, several policemen having arrived, the two men were at once taken to the King's Cross road police station, and there charged, whilst Robinson and Doncaster had their injuries dressed by the police surgeon. The two prisoners, cab washers named Phillips and Jarvis, were brought up at the Clerkenwell Police Court this morning and remanded.

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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris

Post Number: 1102
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In earlier press reports I have posted info about a man arrested for leaving bloodstained articles of clothing at a cleaners in Grays Inn Road. In the same article as the Robinson report above it covered the conclusion of this episode:

St. James's Gazette (London)
9 October 1888


THE MURDERS AT THE EAST END

A man arrested in Gray's Inn road yesterday on suspicion of being concerned in the murders at the East end was released from Leman street police station at a late hour last night, the police investigations having demonstrated that he was innocent of any complicity in the crimes. The man, it appears, was arrested because some blood stains were noticed on a coat and trousers left by him to be cleaned at a shop in the Gray's Inn road. His explanation was that while he was employed as a waiter at the Alexandra Palace he had broken some glass and cut one of his hands rather severely. Inquiries made at his residence and at the palace corroborated his story; and as there were no further grounds for detaining him he was discharged.
Upon inquiry at the East end police stations at four o'clock this morning it was ststed that no arrests had been made during the night. The streets in the vicinity of the recent tragedies are still patrolled by police and detectives in increased numbers, and the closest surveillance is maintained on suspected localities. Last night the number of amateur detectives at work did not seem so great as at the end of last week; but the ordinary detective staff was fully represented. As on previous nights, the locality was almost entirely deserted by the class of persons from whom the murderer has selected his victims.

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Natalie Severn
Chief Inspector
Username: Severn

Post Number: 575
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 3:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

More interesting information Chris that gives us a better picture of what was happening /how people lived etc.Many Thanks as always
Natalie
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Monty
Chief Inspector
Username: Monty

Post Number: 949
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

Re your first post...

Isnt this article in Sugdens book ?

I swear I have read it somewhere. A case of the Rosser watching the suspect whilst the suspect became suspicious of the Rosser....dressed as Old Mother Riley...which isnt suspicious at all is it ?

Monty
:-)

PS It begs the question of what description the Itailians were working on....Schwartz or Lewandes ? Or Anyones for that matter !!

(Message edited by monty on March 30, 2004)
Our little group has always been and always will until the end...
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Michael Raney
Inspector
Username: Mikey559

Post Number: 220
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 1:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris,

Fabulous information as always! Quite interesting as well. Keep up the good work.

Mikey

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