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Chris Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all
I have just finished reading the excellent "Letters from Hell" by Stewart and Keith and I cannot reommend it highly enough.
Whilst trawling through some of the newspaper archive stuff I've been looking at recently I found in a Canadian newspaper a reference to a letter that I can't seem to trace any mention of. And as far as I can see it's not listed in the Letters from Hell book.
The reference is in the Manitoba Daily Free Press dated November 26 1888 and the short articale reads as follows:

"JACK" HAS A PAL

London, Nov. 25.
A private person living near Nottingham has received a letter signed "Jack the Ripper's Pal", stating that both the writer of the letter and "Jack" committed a recent murder in the Whitechapel district. The writer says "Jack" is a Bavarian whom he first met aboard a ship returning from America and who exercised mesmeric influences.


Any info about this letter would be gratefully recived:-))
Chris S
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Stephen P. Ryder
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Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The same article appeared in the Evening Star, Washington, D.C., on the 26th. Most likely a crank.
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Evening Star (Washington, D.C.)
Monday, 26 November 1888

"JACK THE RIPPER'S PAL."--A private person living near Nottingham, England, has received a letter signed "Jack the Ripper's Pal," stating that both the writer of the letter and "Jack" committed the recent murders in the Whitechapel district. The writer says that "Jack" is a Bavarian whom he first met aboard a ship returning from America and who exercised the mesmeric influence.

http://casebook.org/press_reports/evening_star/881126.html

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Stephen P. Ryder
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Funnily enough, a newspaper with this very article in it (another Canadian paper) is up for auction this week on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2164912873&category=13993


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Brian W. Schoeneman
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Post Number: 38
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stephen,

Funnily? :-)

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Stephen P. Ryder
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

'Tis a bonnie word, my German friend.

fun·ni·ly /'f&-n&l-E/ adverb

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?funny002.wav=funnily
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Mark Andrew Pardoe
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whatho all,

At last my city makes an appearance in the Ripper saga. I now wonder exactly where the recipient of the letter lived and how near Nottingham. Or is this just more newspaper blather?

If not, it may be worth me popping along to Colindale and taking a squint at Nottingham's local newspapers. I will await and see what else comes up.

Cheers, Mark
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Stephen P. Ryder
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mark -

Since you live in the area I'd love to see the results of a search in the Nottingham papers, if you're up to it. My impression is that if a Ripper letter was sent to a private individual, it was most likely from one of that person's enemies - sent as a means to frighten or intimidate them. I believe that is the reason why Maria Coroner was stated to have forged her Ripper letters.

Still, its worth a closer look in the locals...
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John Ruffels
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Is there a mention in Stewart Evans & Keith Skinner's "Letters From Hell" of a later JTR letter which ends with the line "I saw your name in Lloyds"?
If not, are Casebook readers aware of such a letter?
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John Ruffels
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 7:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An indication that Scotland Yard police were not quite convinced the "Ripper" had completed his 'campaign by autumn 1890, is evidenced by an
article in the GLOUCESTER JOURNAL on the 4th October,1890:
"The rumours current of a further expected visit of Jack the Ripper are causing a revival of the scares which prevailed last year in Whitechapel and the East End. It appears, says a news agency, that the police have from time to time received numerous anonymous letters, and one of those to hand last week has been deemed of sufficient importance to be circulated throughout the entire police force of the Metropolis. The following is the text of the letter:
"261 Whitechapel Road, London. 26-9-90.
Dear Mr. ---, Please look out around your quarter. I am about to commit a murder in your neighbourhood. I am yours faithfully, Jack the Ripper.I saw your name in Lloyds".(*)
"The neighbourhood is supposed to be Victoria Park-road, South Hackney. The police attach but little importance to the communication, but in consequence of this being the season of the year in which the notorious murderer committed his last crime, they have thought it advisable to take all necessary precautions. The police activity and vigilance in the slums of Whitechapel has been resumed".
(*)Presumeably the reference to "Lloyds" is to "Lloyds Weekly" and not the illustrious Maritime Insurance publication.
My acknowledgement to the late F.Eric Hermes for
original discovery of this item.

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