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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5440
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 4:35 am: | 
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These historians are assuming that JTR wasn't Kosminski, Tumblety, or a few others.
http://www.bbchistorymagazine.com/voteList.asp?item_ID=16840
Robert |
John Savage
Chief Inspector
Username: Johnsavage
Post Number: 548
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 10:26 am: |
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Hi Robert,
I voted.................twice.
Rgds
John |
Christopher T George
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chrisg
Post Number: 1732
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 10:52 am: |
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Hi all
Glad to see Jack rating so highly on this poll. This though is rather an odd assortment of baddies in a number of ways.
Why Sir Oswald Mosley?
At the risk of sounding like a fascist, which I am not, I would say that sure Mosley was a bad man in being a hate mongerer but why is here as the worst Briton of the twentieth century? Who did he actually kill? Why not instead Dr. Harold Shipman or Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper?
Why is Thomas à Becket on the list... the man was a bloody saint and a martyr!
And as for the Duke of Cumberland, on there for the massacre of the Scots after Culloden, wasn't Oliver Cromwell arguably much worse for what he did to the Irish, putting the Irish to the sword at Drogheda and elsewhere? Shouldn't it be Cromwell over Titus Oates for the seventeenth century?
Wouldn't Henry VIII rate over Richard Rich for the sixteenth century? And why Thomas Arundel over the allegedly bloodthirsty Richard III for the fifteenth century? Not that Richard was any more bloodthirsty than most rulers of the day, despite Shakespeare's portrayal of him as an all-time ogre.
Actually any of the Tudors would rate over King John, who like Richard III, appears to be have been more of a "baddie" in myth than reality.
Chris
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com/
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5448
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:27 pm: |
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Hi Chris
I think Sawney Bean might have made an appearance.
I know that it's only supposed to be a short list, but I'd like to extend it so as to include two of our so-called heroes - Richard I and Henry V. Disasters, the pair of them.
Robert |
David O'Flaherty
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Oberlin
Post Number: 1155
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:41 pm: |
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Hi Chris, Robert and John,
You know, Becket never bought a round of drinks in his life. Henry bought them all. Pretty good grounds for making him the worst Briton. Maybe someone who buys the magazine will let us know the real reasoning behind that one.
Dave |
Jennifer Pegg
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Jdpegg
Post Number: 3388
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 4:54 pm: |
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because its a public vote?
is that five words
"Yo, don't believe the hype"
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Lindsey C Hollifield
Chief Inspector
Username: Lindsey
Post Number: 632
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 5:58 pm: |
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I was about to ask why "Thomas a Becket?", when I saw that CTG already had. I always thought Thomas a Becket was the recipient of a pretty raw deal.
Not sure whether I should even admit that I haven't a clue who Sir Oswald Mosely was. Why haven't I heard of him before?
And why isn't Mary Whitehouse listed?
Love,
Lyn x
My first reaction is, "OMG that's crazy". But then I'm thinking this just may be crazy enough to work.
copyright © Bradley McGinnis Sept. 2005
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3496
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:19 am: |
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He he!!! Keep voting chaps!!! |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5450
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:33 am: |
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On the subject of Britons, recently released documents from 1975 show that in the event of a nuclear war, Prime Minister Harold Wilson was to go to a bunker in the Cotswolds, and art treasures would have been buried in Wales. My question is, why not the other way round?
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3497
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:33 am: |
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He he!!! Keep voting chaps!!!
For a JAW-DROPPING read check out
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article335175.ece
Meat cleaver eh?????
Suzi |
Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5451
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:39 am: |
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"Cut open and sometimes mutilated"
Difficult to see how you can cut someone open without mutilating them.
Interesting to see that Kelly's room was a public or semi-public place. I suppose that goes with being a prostitute.
Robert |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3498
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:51 am: |
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Brilliant piece of journalism isn't it!!!!!
Quite warming to Eadric though!!!!.actually punched it into Google and it should be spelt...StreNoa!!!...s'getting better!!!!!
Suzi |
Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3499
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:58 am: |
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Hugh Despenser takes the biscuit though!!!!
Ouch!
(!)
Suzi |
George Hutchinson
Chief Inspector
Username: Philip
Post Number: 962
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 3:55 pm: |
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I can think of worse. I have always thought Henry VIII was one of the biggest monsters this country ever created.
William Joyce had a fair amount to answer for. I agree about the mentions of other killers too - why just JTR?
Where are the Christies, the Peaces, the Heaths, the Dyers, the Wests, the Cottons, the Bradys and Hindleys etc etc etc?
Is it because JTR can be the subject of a light-hearted poll because he is unknown and identifiable murderers are thus too taboo to mention? If that is so - it does open a huge can of philosophical worms.
PHILIP
Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd!
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert
Post Number: 5460
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 4:32 pm: |
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Hi Philip
Yes, I don't like Henry VIII all that much.
Isn't there a bit of a problem with including Joyce? Was he actually British?
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Caroline Anne Morris
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Caz
Post Number: 2442
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 7:20 am: |
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Hi Philip,
It's ok though, because the philosophical worms probably resigned themselves to staying in the can.
Love,
Caz
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Suzi Hanney
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Suzi
Post Number: 3533
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 4:32 pm: |
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Philip-was going to start on the Wests of this world......then decided to stay in the can too!
Suzi x
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