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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1260
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Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For an excellent insight into the inner machinations of the Metropolitan Police Force of the LVP, the following makes a useful contribution:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:K6QZ3HNr47AJ:www.clarku.edu/faculty/jbrown/papers/shpayer.pdf+MEPO++police+london+sick+leave&hl=en
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1262
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Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deaths of Met officers on duty in the time period. No uncle Charles here:

1888 PC Thomas Dean
Drowned in the Grand Surrey Canal at Deptford, while patrolling his beat on a foggy night.
PC Alfred Ellis
Drowned at Barnes after descending steps to cross the river at night to execute a warrant.
PC Michael Lewis
Collapsed and died of a ruptured heart after a violent struggle to arrest two thieves at Chelsea.
1889 D/Sgt James John Elliott
Pensioned and died from the effects of injuries received when stabbed on duty in Islington.
1890 PC James Goodhew
Accidentally drowned in the Shadwell Basin when he fell off a lock gate while it was closing.
PC William James Pasker
While on holiday at Margate he drowned when attempting to rescue a man from a rough sea.
1891 PC George Cole
Fatally injured when run over trying to stop two runaway horses and a van on Brixton Hill.
PC William Frederick Dunmow
Died in an operation to his wrist fractured in a fall on patrol during a severe frost at Edgware.
PC Henry Moore
Fell down stairs at King Street Police Station, Whitehall and died from a fractured skull.
1892 PC Joseph Daniels
Choked to death after swallowing his false teeth when he ran to assist in an arrest in Holborn.
PC Ernest Ellis
Pensioned and died of disease from the effects of injuries received on duty in Hammersmith.
Sgt David Garner
Collapsed and died from heart disease and over exertion in securing a prisoner at Lewisham
PC Henry Samuel Graham
Died from injuries sustained in an accident while on mounted duty at the Lord Mayor's Show.
D/Sgt Joseph Joyce
During a struggle to arrest a thief at Charing Cross Road he was shot and fatally wounded.
PC Arthur May
Died from the effects of injuries received when he fell into a canal while on duty in Southwark.
DC Charles Robinson
Took his own life whilst insane following a blow on the head received on duty at Camberwell.
PC Hugh Spalding
Fatally injured when he accidentally fell down a stairwell at Bermondsey Street Police Station.
1893 Insp George Henry Dixon
Found drowned after going missing on duty in suspicious circumstances at Hampton Court.
PC John Goddard
Fatally injured when he left his home at Chiswick to assist at a house fire and fell over a fence.
PC Robert Wright
Killed in a fire while searching for a woman believed trapped in a burning building at Croydon.
1894 Sgt William George Snell
Pensioned as a result of being shot on duty in 1884, which hastened his subsequent death.
1895 Sgt Frank Benstead
Found with a fatal skull fracture at Chiswick Police Station but how inflicted was unknown.
PC Charles Walpole
Crushed by the accidental fall of a stack of timber in a wood yard while on patrol at Dulwich.
1896 PC Edwin Stone
Collapsed and died from heart disease while assisting in a violent arrest at Wandsworth.
1897 DC William James Kemp
Died from internal injury sustained when he sprained himself chasing a prisoner in Southwark.
1898 PC James Baldwin
Fatally stabbed during a violent struggle to arrest a drunken man in the street at Hoxton.
PC Charles Mather
Pensioned and died from the effects of injuries received in a fall at Deptford Police Station.
PC George Simpson
Assaulted in 1892 then injured chasing a thief in 1897 as a result of which he died on pension.
1899 PC Frederick Arnup
Died from the effects of heat stroke which he sustained while on duty at Greenwich.
PC John Shirley
While on his beat in Holborn he suffered sunstroke from the effects of which he later died.
PC John Smith
Killed when run over by a train in a railway tunnel at Wood Green while on his beat at night.
PC Harry Joseph West
Died of disease resulting from injuries received in the execution of his duty in Bow Division.
PC John Thomas Willsheer
Died from a fractured skull when he fell down the area of a house on his beat in Pimlico.
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1267
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have been trying to access information about this volume all night without success:

'Petrow, Stefan Policing morals: the Metropolitan Police and the Home Office, 1870-1914'

If anyone knows the volume I'd be glad to hear from them.
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Lisa Turner
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 6:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On behalf of Gordon who is having problems posting:

Gordon has recently bought a Police Medal, it's a 1887 Jubilee Medal to a Joseph Daniels (mentioned above) who at the time was serving in C Div, but moved to J Div, in time for the Ripper killings, only to move again to E Div, and choke to death on his own false teeth, whilst effecting an arrest!!!

I'm not sure what I'd rather - a copper choking on his choppers or a pheasant plucker's son...

If anyone has any further info on this or have further comments I have included Gordon's email address in the link.

Lisa
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AP Wolf
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Post Number: 1289
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a fascinating insight and snapshot into the inner machinations of the Met in the LVP, sadly the piece is so long and informative that my computer collapsed when I attempted to copy it, it is a goldmine of information, and despite my best efforts I was unable to raise a similar 'events report' from 1888... I do hope that one of you wizards can, for it will provide a wealth of information and detail.
Enjoy:

'14/11/1857 INDIAN MUTINY FUND £186/5/3d COLLECTED WITHIN THE FORCE FOR THE INDIAN MUTINY FUND.
14/11/1857 HOUSES (BUILT & OCCUPIED) RETURN OF HOUSES BUILT AND OCCUPIED WITHIN THE VARIOUS PARISHES OF THE M.P.D. IN MIDDLESEX FROM 1/7/1855. IN SURREY & KENT FROM 15/9/1856 IN ESSEX SINCE 1848.
14/11/1857 SM0KE ACT RETURN ORDERED ON 11th TO BE IN BY 18th
11/11/1857 SM0KE ACT RETURN REQUIRED OF PERSONS WHO ACKNOWLEDGE TO HAVE EFFECTED A SAVING BY THE ALTERATIONS THEY HAVE MADE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW.
14/11/1857 BURGLARY 'S' FURTHER ENQUIRY AND REPORT ON.
14/11/1857 INSPECTIONS 'H' & 'K' CAPT. HARRIS VISITED LEMAN ST., KING DAVID LANE, ARBOUR SQUARE, WATERLOO ST., POPLAR, & BROMLEY DURING THE AFTERNOON AND SAW THE MEN ON PARADE AT LEMAN ST., ARBOUR SQ., & BROMLEY.
14/11/1857 PCs TO ATTEND POLICE COURTS 'MARLBORO' STREET' FROM 'B' 'C' 'D' 'E' 'F' 'G' 'H' 'L' & 'S' TO IDENTIFY MARY ANN DIXON FOR FRAUD. DESCRIPTION GIVEN.
14/11/1857 PCs TO ATTEND POLICE COURTS 'BOW STREET' FROM EACH DIV. TO IDENTIFY WILLIAM HUNTER FOR STEALING A WATCH, LIVED AT VIRGINIA GARDENS OLD ST. ROAD. DESCRIPTION GIVEN
14/11/1857 PCs TO ATTEND POLICE COURTS 'SOUTHWARK' FROM 'B' 'C' 'D' 'E' 'F' 'G' 'H' 'K' 'L' 'M' 'N''P' & 'R' TO IDENTIFY TIMOTHY TOBIN & JAMES ROWLEY FOR PICKING POCKETS. DESCRIPTIONS GIVEN.
16/11/1857 LARCENY (FROM SHOP) 'S' FURTHER REPORT ON CASE AND RESULT OF INVESTIGATION.
16/11/1857 BOARD OF SURVEY CONSISTING OF SUPTs. 'T' 'C' & 'D' AT PORTLAND TOWN STATION ON 17th.
17/11/1857 INSPECTIONS 'N' CAPT. HARRIS VISITED ISLINGTON, HOXTON, KINGSLAND & CALEDONIAN ROAD STATIONS ON 19th.
17/11/1857 PCs TO ATTEND POLICE COURTS 'WESTMINSTER' FROM 'C' 'D' 'E' 'F' 'G' 'L' 'M' & 'P' TO IDENTIFY GEORGE ROWSE FOR LARCENY. DESCRIPTION GIVEN.
17/11/1857 PCs TO ATTEND POLICE COURTS 'BOW STREET' FROM EACH DIV. TO IDENTIFY HENRY SMITH A SUSPECTED PERSON. DESCRIPTION GIVEN.
17/11/1857 PCs TO ATTEND POLICE COURTS 'LAMBETH' FROM 'B' 'C' 'D' 'E' 'F' 'G' 'H' 'K' 'M' 'P' & 'R' TO IDENTIFY JAMES DICK & JOHN TURNER FOR PICKING POCKETS. DESCRIPTIONS GIVEN.
18/11/1857 BOOTS (WRIGHT'S PATENT SEWED) REPORT REQUIRED IF THE BOOTS ISSUED TO 'D' 'E' 'H' 'K' 'L' 'N' 'R' & 'V' IN JANUARY FOR TRIAL, WHICH AFTER 2 MONTHS '

Interesting that the Met Force held properties in Kent as early as this.
The whole kaboddle is available at 'Events in Police Orders 1857'.

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