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Howard Brown
Chief Inspector
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Post Number: 797
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The continent hopper is said to have been in the United States during the decade of the 1870's.

On page 107 of the True Face of JTR, Harris mentions "his callous ventures in America in the 1870's can be found only in Cremers's all too brief accounts...".

From this we can only hope that perhaps there is more in the O'Donnell manuscript that refers to these trips to the States than what is in the book.

I've looked True Face over probably as much,if not more,than a person should look over a book. Its piecemeal at the moment.

Page 57 discusses the 15 month search for revenge on behalf of a favorite cousin,whose woman was impregnanted by and deserted by another man. Sounds a little excessive to me, but in any event, this is just one of the two incidents that I can find in the book referring to RDS in America.

Page 58 discusses the tale of the murder of a Chinese man. This is the other American incident.

So....from 1868 to 1876,Stephenson allegedly went to America. 1876 being the year he came back from his wild west experiences to endear himself to his father by marrying his mother's housemaid.

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second abberline
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I wonder if there would be any way to find the areas RDS stayed in while in America, and see if there was any more murders (besides the Chinese man), that contained possible mutilation and an uncaptured suspect.
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Howard Brown
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1077
Registered: 7-2004
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Second Abberline:

Trouble is,Abb II, is that if this information exists [ regarding his trips to the States ] they are within the O'Donnell Manuscript. There doesn't appear to be an available source other than the O.M. which details RDS' trip to the States.

He claimed to have also traveled a long distance to dip a handkerchief in the blood of a man who jilted a cousin while in the States. He apparently was the source for Inspector Roots [ see the Roots Report thread here on Casebook..]in Roots' mention of RDS's "degree" he recieved while in New York in late Dec. 1888.

Both are unsupported by anything other than what may lay in the O'Donnell,once again.

As with the claim that he was in the company of a man who killed a Chinese man,you have to take all of this with a grain or two of salt. He didn't do the actual murder by his account.

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Sir Robert Anderson
Chief Inspector
Username: Sirrobert

Post Number: 566
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

" they are within the O'Donnell Manuscript."

It would be invaluable to have access to that document. Perhaps the Casebook could approach Mrs. Harris regarding publishing it....I for one would be willing to make a healthy donation to the charity of her choice in return.
Sir Robert

'Tempus Omnia Revelat'
SirRobertAnderson@gmail.com

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