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John Keefe
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 6:51 pm: | 
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Frances Coles was born on 17 September 1859 at No. 10 Crucifix Lane in Bermondsey. |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2143
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 4:33 pm: |
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Hi John
Only just caught this post! This is indeed correct, and the outline of Coles' life below might be of interest:
Frances Coles
Her birth was registered in the last quarter of 1859 in the district of St Olave, Southwark. She was the daughter of James William Coles, a boot and shoe maker, whose place of birth is listed as various locations in Somerset, and Mary Ann Coles (née Carney) listed as Scottish or Irish in various sources. Frances had three siblings: two sisters, Mary Ann, born circa 1853 and Selina, born circa 1857, and one brother, James, born circa 1863.
In 1861 the family was living at 18 Crucifix Lane, Southwark, the same address as is given on her birth certificate, and is listed as follows:
Head: James Cole aged 39 born Pensford, Somerset - Boot Maker
Wife: Mary Ann Cole aged 31 born born Armagh, Ireland
Children:
Mary Ann aged 9 born Bermondsey
Selina aged 4 born St John's, Southwark
Frances aged 2 born St John's, Southwark
By 1871 the family had moved to 8 White Lion Court, Bermondsey, composed as follows:
James W Coles aged 51 born Woolland, Somerset - Master boot and shoe maker
Wife:
Mary A Coles aged 40 born Hammerton, Scotland
Children:
Mary A aged 18 born Bermondsey
Selina aged 14 born Bermondsey
Frances aged 11 born Bermondsey
James aged 8 born Bermondsey
By 1881 the family had fragmented. The father, James Snr., was an inmate in the Bermondsey Workhouse, and his his details at that time were given as follows:
Workhouse, Russell Street, Bermondsey
James Coles aged 61 born Woolleston, Somerset - Shoemaker.
Unmarried
Selina Coles was an inmate in the St Olave Workhouse in Southwark in 1881:
St Olaves Unions Workhouse, Southwark
Selina Cole aged 21 born Southwark, Surrey - Domestic servant - Inmate
The other two sisters, Mary Ann and Frances (listed as Fanny) were living together in lodgings in that year as follows:
12 Tabernacle Row, London
Lodgers:
Mary A M Coles aged 21 - born Edgbaston Warwick - Boot machinist - Unmarried
Fanny Coles aged 19 born Rotherhithe, Surrey - Unmarried
(The place of birth of Mary Ann as Edgbaston is as yet unexplained.)
I have been unable to find a trace of Mary Coles Snr., the mother, or the younger James in 1881.
By the time of the 1891 census, Frances was, of course, recently dead. Her father was listed as residing in the Bermondsey workhouse:
Bermondsey District Workhouse
James William Coles aged 68 born Bristol - Retired bootmaker
Widowed
One of her sisters, Mary Ann, was living in Shoreditch:
32 Ware Street, Haggerston, Shoreditch
Mary Ann Coles aged 28 born Bermondsey - House cleaning (Char) - Unmarried
Sadly, her other sister, Selina, had by 1891 been confined in Leavesden Asylum as a lunatic:
Leavesden Asylum, Watford
Selina Cole (sic) aged 32 born Bermondsey - Book folder - Lunatic
There are still gaps to be filled, such as the later whereabouts of her Frances' mother (dead by 1891)and brother, James.
(Message edited by Chris on August 07, 2005) |
Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chris
Post Number: 2144
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 4:40 pm: |
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The death of a Selina Adelina Coles aged 37 was registered at Watford, site of the Leavesden Asylum, in 2nd quarter of 1897. On grounds of age (given as 32 in 1891 census) and location, this could well be Frances' sister. |
Jeffrey Bloomfied
Chief Inspector
Username: Mayerling
Post Number: 779
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 5:27 pm: |
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Very interesting and nice work Chris |
AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 2361
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 7:48 pm: |
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It sort of pleases me that in the LVP the book-folders were lunatics.
In our modern age it is the book-makers that are the lunatics.
Nice information though. |
John Keefe
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:39 pm: |
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Hi Chris:
Here's some more information on the Coles family:
Frances' mother Mary Ann died in 1878. Her death was recorded in St. Olave, Sep 1878, Vol. 1d, Pg. 182
Frances' brother James was apparently in the Army in 1881. I believe this census record is his:
James William Charles Coles
Stoughton Barracks, Stoughton Guildford (Age 18)
Private 2nd Surrey Militia - Unmarried
His birth in 1862 was recorded in St. Olave, Dec 1862, Vol. 1d, Pg. 3_
Also, here's an puzzling death record from St. Olave: Selina Coles (Age 0) Sep 1877, Vol. 1d, Pg. 115
Thanks for the interesting information.
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