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Nina Thomas
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 1:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That didn't work !

In the search write "Illustrated Police News" The illustrations will come up. Eddowes is the one labeled "the Whitechapel Mystery".

Nina
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Dan Norder
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Post Number: 294
Registered: 4-2004
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Nina,

Cool, I've never seen some of those Illustrated Police News issues before. There seems to be standard ones you see in Ripper books (sometimes whole, sometimes in pieces), but there were a few Ripper ones in this set that I don't recall seeing any part of before.

I have so much collecting to do... heh, if only I had the money to get everything.

Dan Norder, editor, Ripper Notes
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 3134
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Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 4:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Those who want to search the "Times" can do so until mid October at
http://trials.gale.com/pubacd/

Either Username pubacd18 Password advanced
Or Username pubacd19 Password complete

Robert
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Lindsey
Police Constable
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all,

Forgive me if this has been posted before...

http://www.wwnorton.com/nael/victorian/topic_1/besant.htm

Lindsey
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Lindsey Millar
Police Constable
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And this might also be of interest...

http://www.tlucretius.net/Sophie/Castle/victorian_slang.html

Lindsey
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1433
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.derelictlondon.com/id14.htm

A page of evocative photos of various locations in East London which are curently derelict
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Chris Scott
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A learned essay with the impressive title of
The Incorporative Identifications of Mourning and Melancholia: A Textual Causerie

Paul Emmett

has a section on Jack and his connection to necrophilia

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Chris Scott
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http://www.bertisevil.tv/pages/bert047.htm

Photographic evidence that Jack was none other than Bert from Sesame Street"
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1436
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Posted on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.nypress.com/14/35/news&columns/oldsmoke.cfm

An essay about Inspector Byrnes, involved in the Carrie Brown murder
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Jon Smyth
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 2-2003
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Hey Lindsey, welcome back to the boards, (let me roll out the red carpet), sorry I missed your postes,...I was involved in summat interesting.....

You-know-who
:-)
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1442
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A link to a fictional work about Jack which I could not find listed on Casebook. It is called In the Dark of Night and the "blurb" is as follows:
A historical thriller about the 19th century serial killer, Jack the Ripper. In 1888 in New York City, the search for a serial killer of prostitutes comes to an end with the capture of Doctor Jack Lewiston, a respected surgeon and madman. But before he can go to trial, Jack escapes from custody and flees the country to London, England. Brought out of retirement to track him down is ex-NYC homicide detective-criminologist, Henry Marboro. In charge of the original investigation in the "Ripper Murders," Henry lost his objectivity when his younger sister was one of Jack’s victims. Now on a renewed mission, Henry must find Jack Lewiston and bring him back to America—dead or alive—hopefully before more prostitutes become the victims of the multiple sexual killer. In the process, Henry develops an attraction for a mysterious and beautiful American nurse, Loraine Broderick,who lives in London. Unfortunately, Jack also has his sights set on her as a target of his madness—in addition to ladies of the night streetwalking in Whitechapel in London’s East End

The link is:
http://www.sinc-ic.org/flowers.shtml
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Chris Scott
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Details of an online course about Jack!
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/18593/lessons

It is headed:
Welcome to the School of History and Politics
Course: Who was Jack the Ripper?
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1444
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http://antiqueguns.biz/guns/ripper.htm

The gun belonging to Donald Swanson is for sale at $12,500.

It is described as follows:
This very rare brass frame Tranter pistol was made in England in the 1880's in caliber .22 short (marked .230 cal). This 7 shot revolver has a removable ejection rod stored in the grip. Top of the barrel is inscribed by the Merchant "H. Holland" "New Bond St. London".

It is accompanied with original leather pocket protector holster with loops for wearing on belt.

The Silver oval escutcheon inserted into the back of the grip is a very finely made and bears the inscription "to: Donald Swanson 1882" - with the family motto: "Per Deum Et Rege" ( Latin: "By God and My King") and the "Ducal (or Baronial) Coronet" over the monogram "AB" (or "BA")

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Chris Scott
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Swanson's gun (see above) is pictured below:
swangun
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Ira Bloomfield
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Hi all,

I was really impressed by the "Bert the muppet" theory. Odd though - I could have sworn that the giggling Ernie was a better suspect - he has a weird sense of humor. Maybe they worked in tandem, using Kermit as a lookout.

Jeff
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Chris Scott
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The Holy City & Finnegan's Wake
Or ambiguous light on the Victorian Ballad, a phantasmagoria



Starring Michael Maybrick, Frederick Weatherly, James Joyce, Mr T. S. Eliot,
supported by The Freemasons, Danny Boy, The IRA and Jack the Ripper

This article can be found at
http://www.btinternet.com/~j.b.w/holy.htm
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Chris Scott
Assistant Commissioner
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Post Number: 1465
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Selected Poetry of James Kenneth Stephen (1859-1892)

http://eir.library.utoronto.ca/rpo/display/poet310.html
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Chris Scott
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Selected Poetry of James Kenneth Stephen (1859-1892)

http://eir.library.utoronto.ca/rpo/display/poet310.html
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Chris Scott
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Haven't seen this listed elsewhere on Casebook

The Ghost of Oscar Wilde by Ed Sams
DID OSCAR KNOW JACK THE RIPPER? Was this the secret that caused his downfall? From the grave, Oscar Wilde shed light on the hypocritical homosexuals of Queen Victoria’s court--and on the motive and identity of Jack the Ripper. Read an excerpt of this fascinating true story by Ed Sams. $6.95.

http://www.curiouschapbooks.com/Catalog_of_Curious_Chapbooks/The_Ghost_of_Oscar_Wilde/body_the_ghost_of_oscar_wilde.html
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AP Wolf
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Post Number: 1517
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For an excellent view of many of the famous - and not so famous - buildings involved in the Jack the Ripper case, this site is first class:

www.derelictlondon.com
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Caroline Anne Morris
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Caz

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Registered: 2-2003
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Hi All,

Nothing at all to do with old Jackie Boy, I'm ashamed to say, but I just had to post (boast) about the following, since Alfred Henry Bool was my great grandfather (my dad's mum's dad) and John was Alfred's brother.

I knew Alfred was a portrait photographer, with his own little studio in Pimlico. But I only discovered fairly recently what else the brothers got up to.

Two of the three photographs attributed to them, that hubby found by chance while searching for Victorian photos, were on display in The Museum of London when we went there earlier this year. There they were, right by the actual Lord Mayor's coach that was used for the parade on 9th November 1888.

http://www.photolondon.org.uk/gpr/gpr_Oxfordarms.htm

http://www.photolondon.org.uk/whole_gallery/gmol_bool.htm

For the final one, click on: 'Old houses in Drury Lane'

http://www.eva-eu.org/en/naam/advancedsearch?query=bool&language=english

Love,

Caz
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Kelly Robinson
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Post Number: 101
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Lyrics to an American comic song of the Victorian era that mentions Tumblety. I particularly appreciate his juxtaposition with Mme. Restell.http://www.mikedust.com/fascinatum/2002/fascinatum-052002-2.html
-K
"The past isn't over. It isn't even past."
William Faulkner
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Christopher T George
Assistant Commissioner
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Hi Kelly

This song was mentioned some time ago on these boards. I stated at the time that, intriguingly, the song could indicate the existence of a photograph of Dr. Tumblety, of which there were probably a number taken, but which we today do not have.

Best regards

Chris George
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
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Kelly Robinson
Detective Sergeant
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Post Number: 102
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Sorry I missed that, Chris. I was curious also if it meant Tumblety had a carte de visite himself, but it's just as likely that the song is just making use of notable people.
Someday I'll read through all the old threads!
-K
"The past isn't over. It isn't even past."
William Faulkner
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Debra Arif
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For anyone who is interested in doing research into the jewish community of the east end at the time of the murders, London Metropolitan Archives have digitised and put on line various immigrant records on this website:-

http://www.movinghere.org.uk/

Among the records are the original registers of The Jews Free School admission and discharge registers, boys 1869-1893 and girls 1868-1900.
The registers were beautifully kept and are easy to read ( in PDF format ) and give the dates the child attended the school and the name of a parent or guardian.
On doing a quick scan I found many familiar names and addresses associated with the JTR case.

Debra
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Debra Arif
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Also in digitised image form on site mentioned above:-

(LMA) H12/CH/A/01/033
Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum Committee of Visiting Justices Minutes: documents relating to the transferral of Jewish patients to the asylum and the religious instruction of Catholic patients
July 1872 to June 1873
format: Text

I am not sure if any other years have been digitised, I came across this one by accident as there is no way to do a blanket search of what records are available, it seems to be just pot luck, but well worth a visit!

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Diana
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If you want to find out about Victorian clothing, try this one. http://www.fashion-era.com/mid-late_victorian_fashion.htm
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Diana
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More Victorian clothing -- http://www.blockaderunner.com/nlc/nlc.html
I found out reading about this that the rich got new clothes and the poor got used. Clothes were made to last longer and usually went through several owners. Today we have upscale clothing and moderately priced clothing, but it was different then. Note that Kate's clothes are not described as "cheap" but rather "old". They may well have started their existence in the posession of a person of class.
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
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Hi all

Does anyone know the state of play at http://freereg.rootsweb.com/ ? I've been popping in there for over a year now, but I keep getting "searches not active while database is being developed."

Robert
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Lindsey Millar
Inspector
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The London Jews Database

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/UK/londweb.htm

May or may not be useful, but thought I'd post it anyway..

Best,

Lyn
"When a man grows tired of London, he grows tired of life" (or summat like that)
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Chris Scott
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http://www.bowyer.org.uk/newsletter/news12.htm

This is a study group based on the surname Bowyer and includes some research that has been done on Thomas Bowyer of Miller's Court fame
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
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Those who don't have access to the 1891 census may find the following site useful :

http://www.census1891.com/index.html

Robert
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Chris Scott
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New Criminologist Online
Jack the Ripper - Contemporary Profile - 117 years overdue
Published on 10 March 2005 | Author BERRY-DEE, Christopher.

A Contemporary Offender Profile by Christopher Berry-Dee and a book review on a most unusual, yet masterpiece of pensmanship in the genre.
http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=-642641012
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Chris Scott
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There seems to be a problem with the above link. Try this one instead:
http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/print.asp?id=-642641012
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Chris Scott
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The Victorian Times Project - well worth a look
http://www.victoriantimes.org/ixbin/hixclient.exe?_IXSESSION_=&_IXFILE_=index.html&_IXACTION_=file
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an armchair detective
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Jack the Ripper As the Threat of Outcast London
by Robert F. Haggard from the University of Virginia

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/journals/EH/EH35/haggard1.html

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