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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 2957
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As far as I know there are not many things that connect every single senior officer involved in the hunt for the Whitechapel Murderer apart from their collective inability to catch said Whitechapel Murderer.
However I am pleased to report that I have finally discovered their shared dark secret, and that is the MPORS, an organisation so secretive and sinister that the Freemasons pale to insignificance in comparison.
This secret society had its roots buried deep within the rotten earth of Old Scotland Yard, and then its branches and stems spread relentlessly through every single department of the New Scotland Yard: from the humble clerk’s office in the basement, throughout the CID, uniformed officers and right up to the giddy heights of the Executive Office. This blight infected everyone and everything.
New commissioners attempted at first to cut the rot out to eradicate the thorny beast that blossomed right in the very heart of Scotland Yard, but they were soon drawn into its secretive ranks to become quickly corrupted by the sweet scent of ambition, greed and wicked determination to become the eventual master of this most secretive organisation.
Root, stem and branch was Scotland Yard infected - up to their knees in filth - in the propagation and evil seeding of the secret aims of the MPORS, and it is now time to name the senior officers who were behind this thorny growth in the very heart of the Metropolitan Police Force.
The true Worm in the Bud!

Anderson, Monroe, Macnaghten, Littlechild, Cutbush, Abberline and Butcher.

These were the very individuals involved in the muck and filth that lay in the fertile earth of their corruptive and unnatural aims.
It is now almost time to disclose the very nature of this thorny beast known as the MPORS to my readers, but first I must add that one of the superior officers mentioned above possessed uncanny abilities and knowledge in the dark arts they practised, which the others were not privy to, and this gave this particular officer a power and control over the others which was to shape the momentous events which we discuss here.
That officer cannot be named, so my readers must judge which of them it was.
All can finally revealed.

Yes, folks, you guessed it.
All those senior officers had an abiding passion for growing and exhibiting roses.
The Metropolitan Police Organisation of Rose-Sniffers.
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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana

Post Number: 899
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You made that up, right?
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Donald Souden
Chief Inspector
Username: Supe

Post Number: 897
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

AP,

You forgot Sergeant Cuff.

Don.
"He was so bad at foreign languages he needed subtitles to watch Marcel Marceau."
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Robert Charles Linford
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Robert

Post Number: 5382
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Mr Abberline,

Could you give me your expert advice? I'm having appalling trouble with my roses. They present every appearance of having been slashed with a long, sharp-bladed knife. They have been cut down virtually to ground level. Close by, I found a piece of cloth stained green. From what are my roses suffering?

Yours
CHC
Stockwell


Dear CHC,

Excessive pruning is always a problem. I suspect that your roses are suffering from the contagion known as Nephewitis. My advice would be a complete transplantation - to Broadmoor.

Yours
Abberline
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Christopher T George
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Chrisg

Post Number: 1714
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear AP

I was trying to sniff one of my roses but I fell in my garden.

I was trying to catch Jack but I fell down on the job.

A rose by another name? Rose

Fred
Christopher T. George
North American Editor
Ripperologist
http://www.ripperologist.info
http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com/
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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana

Post Number: 902
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe Abberline and Co. understood something that modern day police have lost sight of. If you spend all day dealing with that which is sordid and negative, you need something beautiful in your life to balance it or it will start to affect you. I understand that the divorce rate for cops is not good. Maybe roses worked for them.
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AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf

Post Number: 2961
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was a good year for the roses.
But only one of the named senior officers managed to get several sub-species of hybrid roses named after him.
The rest went to early graves.
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Scott Nelson
Inspector
Username: Snelson

Post Number: 167
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting that you include the name of Butcher on the list of seven senior MET officers at Scotland Yard , A.P.

James Butcher was a Chief Inspector on the Ripper case in 1888. By the time of Abberline's retirement in 1892, he had become a Superintendent. Butcher himself was present at Abberline's retirement ceremony at the Three Nuns Hotel on February the 8th. Eventually, Butcher became the Assistant Chief Constable when Macnaghten succeeded to the position of MET Assistant Commissioner. I've always suspected that Butcher could have been the source of Abberline's statements to the Press about two suspects ("a man who died in a lunatic asylum," or the drowned 'student'.)

G.R. Sims in the Sunday Referee of 29 March 1903 actually mentions the Macnaghten Memodradum: "How the ex-Inspector [Abberline] can say 'We never believed "Jack" was dead or a lunatic' in the face of the report made by the Commissioner of Police is a mystery to me."

Was the "Commissioner of Police" actually a reference to Macnaghten or to Bradford?
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn

Post Number: 2718
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Chief Commisioner of Police immediately prior to Sir Edward Bradford was James Monro,who had resigned for a second time on June 12 1890 right in the middle of the big row over police pensions.[But not because of it].


In the year 1889-1890, Sir Edward Bradford was escorting Prince Albert Victor on an Indian tour during the year immediately prior to his appontment.


He held office as Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police from 1890-1903.

Surely Macnaghten would have had to defer when writing his memo,to Bradford, since he was the Chief Commisioner?
Natalie
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Natalie Severn
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Severn

Post Number: 2719
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ps Reading the goings on between parliament and the Chiefs of Police during the mid-late 1880s as well as the 1890"s makes my head spin.
Apparently Lord Salisbury told the Queen that Monro had been guilty of "evil practises"[which seems to mean Monro couldnt go on dealing with much more of Lordc Salisbury"s interference and double dealing over his secret service matters.
Sir Robert Anderson had lost face and nearly lost his pension as well.

Sir Charles Warren had resigned right in the middle of the Ripper affair [November 1888---]after a huge row with Monro which had nothing whatever to do with the ripper and was promptly replaced- by ? James Monro- as Chief Commissioner!

Charles Cutbush began his pension queries.By 1890,the whole police pension issue began to explode into the national press and that same year James Monro resigned for good!

Charles"s nephew ,Thomas Cutbush suddenly began to become a "cause celebre" and was quietly and gently[ but speedily] led off to Broadmoor ....

Charles battled on with his pension dispute ,his fear of fenians and his roses.....
until he too found the heat getting too hot and exited just as suddenly and dramatically from the kitchen as had Thomas!

The Druitt versus Kosminski "Prime suspect" to do started up----or maybe it should be called the
"Macnaghten versus Anderson" Suspect to do-started up.
The ripper was never found----as far as we know

And the government,tired of Sir Robert and his anxiety to confess all publicly , used the "pension issue" to silence poor old Sir Robert"s press outbursts----after all ,did he want to lose that hard won pension altogether?What else might he decide to confess to knowing?

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