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Diana
Chief Inspector
Username: Diana
Post Number: 887
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:48 pm: | 
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I had always assumed that JTR's anatomical skills were not that great. One of the things that contributed to my opinion was that when he took Chapman's uterus he took the back half of her bladder with it.
Today I was talking to a lady who works in the medical records department of a hospital. She says she has seen several charts now where an obstetrician/gynecologist doing a cesarean section on a patient has accidently cut the bladder. Her boss told her it happens from time to time. I didnt tell her why I was so interested!
In light of that information maybe JTR wasn't that hamhanded after all! |
Stanley D. Reid
Chief Inspector
Username: Sreid
Post Number: 667
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:57 pm: |
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Hi Diana,
And he was doing it rapidly and under pressure in virtual darkness. I wonder how many master surgeons could do as well even today.
Stan |
Nicholas Smith
Inspector
Username: Diddles
Post Number: 156
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:39 am: |
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G'day Di and Stan,
Also remember that he was able to find Catherines kidney.
Jules |
AP Wolf
Assistant Commissioner
Username: Apwolf
Post Number: 3019
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 1:00 pm: |
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I was fascinated to come across this statement from Francis A. Harris MD - made in 1900 in ‘Death in its Medico-Legal Aspects’ - concerning the torso found in the Thames in July of 1887, for I do believe the implication and distinction he makes here applies equally to the victims of the Whitechapel Murderer:
‘It may be argued that such skill could be gained by a hunter or a butcher, as either of these are in the habit of rapidly and skilfully separating limbs, and of cutting up a trunk into several parts. I do not think that any surgeon or anatomist could have done the work so well, as they are not ‘constantly’ operating, while a butcher is almost daily cutting up carcasses.’
(The emphasis on the word ‘constantly’ is the author’s own).
(Page 77, ‘A System of Legal Medicine’ 1900 New York. Hamilton & Godkin).
Harris further qualifies this statement later when he is discussing the Scotland Yard torso of September 1888:
‘The manner in which the limb had been separated was exactly the same as in the first case, and similar argument as to the occupation of the operator will apply in this case.’ |
Dustin Gould
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 8:25 pm: |
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I remember back several years, Dr.Ian West, a top British pathologist stated in his opinion, Jack had what he would classify as "basic, anatomical knowledge". Which would include the being able to distinguish between organs, and where to find them in the human body. Something Tumblety would certainly have acquired working as a custodian, in a gynocoligical hospital. Other than that, he felt based on his handling of a knife, that Jack had no real skill or practice as a surgeon or doctor.
Dustin |
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